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Westministenders: Boris and God Knows what next. (I'm all out of ideas!)

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RedToothBrush · 16/02/2017 23:56

Still a week until Stoke and Copeland. (Labour Hold/Con Gain unless something strange happens) QT is from Stoke next week.

A50 hits the Lords next week. Melania is being lined up to do something for the women. (God help us all).

Will UKIP survive? Will Nuttall survive? Will Labour survive? Will Trump survive? Will CNN survive? Will the Lords survive? Will Theresa May survive a class room of children?

All these questions and more

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Mistigri · 19/02/2017 18:55

Murdoch may back Brexit personally, but his newspapers were split - Sun was Leave, the Times and Sunday Times were Remain. Reader demographics were the most important factors in the newspapers' stances.

The Sunday Times was leave. The Times was remain, but declared quite late as I recall, after looking for a long time as if it would support brexit. To my memory, of all the national newspapers, only the Financial Times (not part of the Murdoch stable) was unequivocally remain.

CeciledeVolanges · 19/02/2017 18:55

And the Guardian!

CeciledeVolanges · 19/02/2017 18:56

BCF the only good thing about that little episode was Sweden's response. I love that Sweden's administration is just sort of ironically trolling trump all the time

Mistigri · 19/02/2017 19:01

And the Guardian!

Nope, some senior guardian columnists were very lukewarm about remaining. Definitely not unequivocal, a fair bit of pandering to the eurosceptic left. The FT was the only daily paper with consistent pro Remain coverage.

woman12345 · 19/02/2017 19:23

With my awful French and German, it's been interesting to watch how brexit's been reported in EU press. Like the parochial tendency of US which Trump is using to its greatest effect, English parochialism has made partial/ biased/ propagandist media even more effective.

woman12345 · 19/02/2017 19:30

Kraft Heinz drops Unilever takeover bid
Unilever clashed with UK supermarket Tesco in October over its attempts to raise prices to compensate for the steep drop in the value of the pound.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-39022692

Give Vauxhall same support as Nissan', demands union as car workers' jobs come under threat
www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/02/15/give-vauxhall-support-nissan-demands-union-car-workers-jobs/

Big employers.

boredofbrexit · 19/02/2017 19:33

Maybe then its personal...Murdoch cheesed at Tone topping off with his missus?

Peregrina · 19/02/2017 19:51

But one Tory is beginning to have doubts.

BigChocFrenzy · 19/02/2017 19:54

When it comes to "restructuring," it is much easier and cheaper to terminate workers in the UK.

This is also why the UK has lower employment than in many other EU countries - firms are much less afraid to employ workers when they can sack them.
The downside is that many UK workers have less secure employment

boredofbrexit · 19/02/2017 20:05

Question.

Westministenders: Boris and God Knows what next. (I'm all out of ideas!)
woman12345 · 19/02/2017 20:06

BCF because Labour shafted the union movement and didn't repeal the 1994 trade union act, so workers are shafted, so brexit.

Eloquent tory Peregrina

We share one planet; the EU for all its difficulties represents one of the most advanced and successful forms of international cooperation. It’s a canard that the EU is anything other than an exemplar for deeper collaboration around the world. Self-evidently, the referendum revealed unhappiness on a range of issues, bound up around globalisation, economic change, widening inequality and large-scale immigration.

CeciledeVolanges · 19/02/2017 20:07

I'm aware of the legal commentary - most of the same people thought Miller would go the other way pre- HC

Kaija · 19/02/2017 20:19

Thanks for that link, Peregrina. It's very well said.

Badders123 · 19/02/2017 20:25

Very interesting link
He won't be last imo

NinonDeLanclos · 19/02/2017 20:31

The Indy has been consistently Remain post-Brexit, but I didn't read it prior to the vote.

The Guardian tried to be more even-handed I think. Larry Elliot voted for Brexit.

BigChocFrenzy · 19/02/2017 21:09

Bored Leave cunts would be Farage, Trump, Le Pen, IDS, Bojo, Fox, Gove, Leasom, Patel, Murdoch, Dacre ....

boredofbrexit · 19/02/2017 21:10

maybe...but the question was are there any nice folk for remain?

Badders123 · 19/02/2017 21:14

Me!!
👍😀

woman12345 · 19/02/2017 21:17

and May, Banks, Gove, Gove, Gove, Putin, the Freedom Association, the Atlantic Bridge, the trolls that are attacking Labour female MPs.

TheElementsSong · 19/02/2017 21:30

are there any nice folk for remain?

I'm definitely Not Nice, why, I'm practically a caricature of the stereotypical Remoaner. And I own several items of IKEA furniture, which clearly marks me out in opposition to the Orange One - so I'm probably even worse than Not Nice.

BigChocFrenzy · 19/02/2017 21:30

Well the question followed a list of just 2 Remainers, so I started the Leave cunts list.

imo Ruth Davidson is the nicest of all the current politicians and she's Remain - she's accepted the result, but like many of us here seems to want a sane Brexit, not a hardcore one.
She does laugh at herself a lot too; so many politicians are so far up themselves

I'm trying to think of a nice Leave politician - who isn't dead < ponderrs >

Badders123 · 19/02/2017 21:32

Oh!
Aren't we allowed IKEA stuff?
Well that's me buggered then
Sigh
I'm such a liberal elite snowflake ❄️
😂

BigChocFrenzy · 19/02/2017 21:34

Oh, Nicola Sturgeon too - I like her a lot Smile < goady choc >
and I like Colum Eastwood, the NI SDLP leader
hmm nicest pols aren't English < ponders this too >

TheElementsSong · 19/02/2017 21:35

www.politico.eu/article/brexit-negotiation-issues-worrying-the-european-parliament/

"20,833 — EU laws and rules to be scrutinized

This figure is cited in a report by the employment committee. With only around 500 working days between the triggering of Brexit negotiations and the legal deadline for Brexit two years later, negotiators will have to agree on the divorce settlement at a rate of 40 legal measures per day."

Moar Project Fear from those bloody experts again! Such negativity - don't they know all we have to do is Think Positive and Pull Together to Make It A Success?

BigChocFrenzy · 19/02/2017 21:36

badders You're nothing like as elite as I am - I confessed to valuing top orchestras Blush < hangs head >

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