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Westministenders: Boris and his friends hand in their homework to be marked.

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RedToothBrush · 03/02/2017 14:10

The last week has been depressing for a lot of people.

Even if you are happy about the vote in the Commons, there is a worrying lack of backbone in MPs of all shades.

Then there’s what is going on in the USA which I’m going to quietly ignore in this post except to say that cosying up to Trump still could backfire on all who do for numerous reasons.

It seems like its all over in someways, but there is still plenty going on.

The A50 Bill has only passed stage one. The Government’s deliberate publishing of the White Paper after the vote has left a lot of people with egg all over their face.

Plus its just crap. Actually its not crap. It’s a dog dinner of farcical proportions with no content, faulty data and incorrect details that an A-Level Student did the night before their assignment was due, masquerading as an official government document.

Now its amendment time, which is the serious bit. For an amendment to make it, it will need cross party support. After the government failed to produce a White Paper worth the paper it was written on, and insulted the intelligence of the House of Commons, that could get interesting.

For starters the White Paper says that EU citizens are one of our best bargaining chips. Trouble is a lot of Tory and Labour MPs don’t agree.

In short there is a fair old chance of a government defeat next week at some point. The government don’t want any. Especially not this early. I really think it will be very difficult for the government to provide the assurance MPs will want, even if they crack the whip. They have lost the trust of too many. In voting for the first vote, many MPs will feel they have shown their intent to support leaving and now will get busy on trying to hammer down the details.

Highlights include of the White Paper include the idea that we will still be subject to the ECJ except we won’t. This is ridiculous. We will be subject to ECJ rulings but not be subject to ECJ rulings directly. Eh? What? (Not that we didn’t see this coming). There’s Euroatom and the government doing an impression of Homer Simpson. With a by-election in Copeland on the cards. That story has some time to keep running. As Steve Peers points out, the Leprechauns are going to sort out Northern Ireland for us which is a great political strategy to employ.

Its full of lots of other utter bollocks but those particular points are the ones that are potentially the most problematic for the government. If you don’t think the White Paper screams we are going to get eaten alive by the EU and Trump, you need to get off the hallucinogenics pronto.

If that isn’t awe inspiring enough we also have:

The wonderful mental image of Paul Nuttall kipping on a mattress in a house in Stoke disparately pretending to be a Stokie, nervously hoping that letterbox rattling in the wind isn’t C4 letterbox again and that the coppers don’t pay him a visit in the near future. I confess that whilst my imagination has been kept busy with this, I am disappointed in the lack of video clips of him munching on an Oatcake in a Stoke City shirt, sitting on an Armitage Shanks throne, turning his plate over whilst listening to Robbie Williams and with a Titanic by his side. All at the same time. I think he’s missed a few tricks.

AND

Diane Abbott doing quite possibly even more damage to Labour than them merely rolling over and dying over a50 by pulling a sickie. Her ‘Brexit Flu’ damages the party’s image and Corbyn himself even more. If that’s even possible. Some Labour MPs have demanded an apology.

Labour is starting to look like it’s a ship with rats fleeing this week. MPs have defied a three line whip and quite the Shadow Cabinet (Again). Rumours are that over 7000 members have left. A councillor has defected to the Lib Dems. There was a council by election in Rotherham where Lab lost a seat to the LDs in an area where there has never been as many people vote LD. Nor were there as many remain voters as LD voters. The Parliamentary vote for Unite’s new leader has unsurprisingly selected the anti-Corbyn candidate Gerald Coyne over Len McCluskey. The bookies have dropped the odds on Corbyn leaving Labour before a GE from 6/1 to 2/1 overnight. Oh and Red Ed is being rumoured to be returning to the front bench…

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RedToothBrush · 04/02/2017 06:12

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/donald-trump-russia-cyberattacks-michael-fallon-defence-secretary-a7560601.html

What's going on here?

Fallon approval of Trump's stance on Russia. Read the article and it contains reference to another article where Fallon being critical of May and condeems Spain for allowing Russia to refuel.

There's a u turn in policy going on.

Why? Who is it coming from?

And Kate Joey. It looks more and more like she is basically on the ukip pay roll. Keep digging. If she is others are likely too. She is due to stand down. It's the ones that aren't that we need to know about more...

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HashiAsLarry · 04/02/2017 06:15

If 16m remain voters are snowflakes and that's an ok label then it passes that 17m leavers can be labelled fascists. If you don't like labels, don't use them.

HashiAsLarry · 04/02/2017 06:18

Is it possible for this governments heads to be further up DTs? I'm largely sure he could kill one of the Queen's corgis whilst he was over here and they'd find some way of saying he was right to do so.

birdybirdywoofwoof · 04/02/2017 06:42

If he said he would do so, then absolutely he was right to do so...

Sorry corgi.

Kaija · 04/02/2017 07:17

Lol birdy. Apparently that is how it works now.

Kaija · 04/02/2017 07:58

On which subject, look at all these tweets from totally unrelated Twitter accounts...

Westministenders: Boris and his friends hand in their homework to be marked.
SemiPermanent · 04/02/2017 08:14

bored not considering you're likening these things to yellow stars.

Wtaf?

At no point did Bored compare anything to yellow stars.

You have just literally made that shit right up.
I am reporting you, that's foul.

Fucking hell.

HashiAsLarry · 04/02/2017 08:16

Yesterday 21:45
would that be a star shaped medal then kaija

Report all you like semi but you're reporting the wrong person

HashiAsLarry · 04/02/2017 08:17

#alternativefacts

SemiPermanent · 04/02/2017 08:22

She was asking about medals for fucking Leave voters.

Kaija said all Leave voters should get a medal to make them feel better - Bored asked if it was going to be shaped like a star.
You know, like this:
Star
A special snowflake sort of star.

At no point did she mention yellow fucking stars and all that they represent.

Not so much alternative facts as blatantly made up shit on your part.

HashiAsLarry · 04/02/2017 08:23

Bored didn't question that though. The inference was clear. Otherwise there was no need to state a specific shape of a medal.

Headfullofdreams · 04/02/2017 08:24

Semi, oh yes she did, 21.35 onwards.

Drop the faux outrage and bore off back to the turkeys thread.

Snowflakes don't look like gold stars but I know what does.

SemiPermanent · 04/02/2017 08:24

Report all you like semi

I have.
Worry not.

HashiAsLarry · 04/02/2017 08:25

If you don't have enough history to understand the significance of handing out stars to large groups of people then you should drop your faux outrage.

Kaija · 04/02/2017 08:25

Oh dear.

Kaija · 04/02/2017 08:29

(I like the idea of a special snowflake sort of star though. I'll have one to go with my special moon-shaped triangle.)

HashiAsLarry · 04/02/2017 08:30

I wouldn't mind a snowflake shaped medal. I've been after a new brooch for a while. Grin

SemiPermanent · 04/02/2017 08:30

If you don't have enough history to understand the significance of handing out stars to large groups of people then you should drop your faux outrage.

I do know my history, hence my outrage.

Not 'faux' at all - actually really fucked off.

HashiAsLarry · 04/02/2017 08:31

Fucked off in the wrong direction then.

SemiPermanent · 04/02/2017 08:32

Kaija - it was you who mentioned medals, Bored responded & you said last night you understood she was talking about your 'medals for leavers' (as in a 'gold star').

At NO POINT did she even infer the sort of thing that Hashi is suggesting.

Bearbehind · 04/02/2017 08:33

the inference bored was making by referring to star shaped medals was quite clear- the shape of any medal wasn't relevant otherwise.

bored was spoiling for a fight on this thread last night with silly provocative posts but no one rose to the bait.

Be as outraged as you like semi. Your the only person trying to pretend it was anything to do with snowflakes.

TheElementsSong · 04/02/2017 08:33

Blimey.

gisforGirl · 04/02/2017 08:34

Symbols and semiotics.

Star mean mostly gold star in our house.

"And Kate Joey. It looks more and more like she is basically on the ukip pay roll. Keep digging. If she is others are likely too." Shock that is extremely worrying. Conservative MPs being 'sponsored' bribed by Banks? I hadn't considered that possibility. Is this even likely?

HashiAsLarry · 04/02/2017 08:34

Someone makes a nazi allegory then they should get called out for it.

SemiPermanent · 04/02/2017 08:35

So nobody here has ever given gold stars to their kids?
No gold stars given at school?

It was really very fucking clear.

It was about handing medals out to Leavers to make them feel special about winning.

Don't pretend it was something sinister when it wasn't.

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