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So .....how are we all this evening?

Shame that's the best reason I've heard yet infinite

Bearbehind - what do you think will be different once we've left the EU?
What changes are you scared of? - I try and understand the hysteria I really do, but to me that's all it is - hysterical lefties who still can't get over the fact that they lost. Nigel Farage got one over on you, a totally massive one! what ever happens to him & ukip now is totally irrelevant - he won. I know that's hard for you, but that's democracy & the left fucking invented democracy!

Honestly - people are just taking the piss out of you now ( not you personally but all the hysterical anti - Trump, ant - Brexit, anti -democracy people )

Get - over - it

Bear the whole point is that opposition to the EU on democratic deficit grounds has a very long history and is not some whacky outsider fad. In 1975 the Labour Party voted 2:1 in favour of leave.

Loads of googleable history but I like this article reflecting on 1975 - interesting that it links back to an earlier conversation about the net impact of UK pensioners overseas.

www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/01/back-future-britain-s-1975-referendum-europe

On sovereignty, there is a difference between me giving my teenagers money whenever they ask and me giving them unrestricted access to my bank account. In both cases I am still sovereign but my degree of control differs somewhat.

I'm not hysterical at all.

I'm not relishing a future where no one has a fucking clue how things are going to turn out but that's not hysteria, it's common sense.

It's more than a little pathetic that Leavers keep resorting to those kind of comments rather than answering simple questions.

Any comment on one single thing the EU has told you you can't do that's going to change now?

I thought not.

I know a lot of EU citizens have visited the US (not me cant afford it) but given that all American food is poisoned by chemicals, hormones, GM, bad animal welfare etc. What do tourists eat? I have not previously heard howls of protest from tourists starving whilst there.

Another incident in France. at the Louvre. Being reported as Islamist terrorism. Contained by police.

Interesting 10 minute canter through the current state of the World economy and post Brexit UK - growth prospects, EU trade negotiations, City prospects, Trumponomics, export prospects to China.

The Chinese like us for our ability to find the humour in any situation.

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04rrcqv

Oh not again

Bear as you're so good and utterly infallible at fortune telling (I must say I for one am impressed I've never met anyone who can predict the future accurately before) can you share the lottery numbers with us?

The point is Bear that the UK will get to decide what to get rid of and what to keep - and even if upon reflection we kept everything then that would be fine too because that would be the decision if the UK. Now Im sure that will explode your head so I am stepping back from the screen and going on my lunch break.

And before you interpret that as staying in, Its not; I am solely referring to regulations and laws

It's more than a little pathetic that Leavers keep resorting to those kind of comments rather than answering simple questions.

And, by contrast, I find it more than a little pathetic that certain elements of the more hysteria fuelled Remain side are still asserting that 'the poor' and 'people on benefits' are incapable of thinking beyond what payouts they will receive.

'My husband the higher rate tax payer' couple with a comprehensive list of why you are a Good Person and how you care about the poor unfortunates who are their own worst enemy is, frankly, offensive.

FYI, I am one of those to be 'pitied' apparently; and yet, I was still perfectly able to think beyond my next benefits payment.

(It seems a strange incident as he did not even have bombs on him so probably just a nutter

FT "A man who attacked a soldier at the Louvre museum in Paris on Friday cried “Allahu akbar” before he was shot. French police said they believed the man, who was seriously wounded in the incident, intended to carry out a terrorist attack.

The man who had two backpacks shouted “God is great” in Arabic and lunged at the soldier at the entrance to the museum shortly after 10am local time. The soldier responded by shooting five bullets into the man, who is “gravely wounded” but alive.

A bomb squad was sent to the scene, but inspection of the backpacks revealed that they had no explosives, according to police chief Michel Cadot, speaking at the scene. Dozens of police officers, cars and ambulances are still on site.")

We Remainers just have to make the best of it. I will probably do pretty well out of it financially so there we are. I respect the result and I hope we can make the best of it. There is good in everything although I still think we'd be better off in the EU/EEA.

Jamie I agree with your list but the hoover one's the big one for me. As long as I can get the dog hair out of my carpet, I'm happy

Oooh lovely

Are we now allowed to drag posts in from other threads?

I thought we werent supposed to do that as it was bad form ?

But if we are allowed to do it now, i can say on this thread that semi should be ashamed of the 'kept woman' comment

I am obviously a 'kept woman' as i am not a highr rate tax payer

And i cant spell

I'm not relishing a future where no one has a fucking clue how things are going to turn out

That is exactly how a lot of Brexiteers felt and why we voted to leave the EU. We were so hacked off not knowing how the EU was going to turn out. Would we end up being a region of the United States of Europe, with its own flag, national anthem, army, imposing direct taxes and laws, bailing out other states, housing millions of migrants, implementing Brussels directives on everything.....

Leaving the EU gives us back a degree of certainty over our future.

semi thought dragging her strawman here would suddenly change what it actually is.

bored, you really believe that we can not decide for our selves and we couldn't before don't you? Which part of 'parliament was always sovereign' do you not understand?

The EU was used as a scapegoat for unpopular decisions not to force things upon us.

Leaving the EU gives us back a degree of certainty over our future.

Now that is hysterical!

^^ 'can now' not 'can not'

bear what part of you are boring my arse off do you not understand?

Is that a pigeon strutting all over a chess board I can hear?

The EU was used as a scapegoat for unpopular decisions not to force things upon us.

Perhaps you could give us some of these unpopular decisions we scapegoated on the EU?

but given that all American food is poisoned by chemicals, hormones, GM, bad animal welfare etc

yes but in reality EU farming standards are very poor too. Just because its written somewhere that standards have to be X does not mean its so.

Who enforces these standards? I saw document saying 45 out of 45 farms in the EU visited fell way below welfare standards.

SemiPermanent Fri 03-Feb-17 12:12:30 Great post Semi.

The funny thing is - we stand to loose out potentially with DH job, many people may stand to loose out but even with this factored in they still voted out. That tells remainers we are stupid, that tells leavers that quality of life is more important.

Great it was a scape goat - so what - the excuse in your eyes has gone now, even better!