If leaving the EU is a complete and utter disaster, who will you blame?

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Ten years down the line, the economy is struggling because of it, troubles in NI are inflamed again, I'm scared to even think what might go wrong in Gibraltar or a split with Scotland. Anyway, if it is a huge mistake, who will be at fault?

I will blame everyone who trash-talks the UK's prospects since the vote.

Because You Just Have To Believe and if it doesn't turn out magnificent the only possible cause is naughty infidels not Believing hard enough .

And yes, why not expect a roaring success? Just as likely as total doom.

Because with any (pseudo) binary situation there has to be an equal likelihood of either outcome, exactly like tossing a coin. New Alternative Mathematical Fact!

So for the successes, I'll praise everyone who worked from the time of the vote onwards to secure them.

What would this worthy "work" constitute? Thinking Positively?

Cameron, those who lied, and those who voted thinking it was only indicative.

But fundamentally Cameron. Stupid man to go to the country on the basis he did, no second opportunity, limited legal advice, obv, no action plan, no decent communication strategy,

No mandate for hard Brexit, for leaving the single market (membership was in the manifesto), leaving customs union, hard border in NI etc.

Pretty much everyone mentioned above but Cameron above all.

Not to forget Osborne for all the scaremongering.
Spectacular own goal.

You can go on for ever blaming people as this thread shows; Cameron, Blair, Thatcher and so many politicians have a hand in this and creating the circumstances that led up to it

Problem is with anything like this, we don't know how things might have been. I know someone in a senior role at a large financial institution, highly qualified in economics and finance who thinks that Europe is heading into financial difficulties that, if we remained in, could be infinitely worse than Brexit. The possible outcomes are so many and varied that it is impossible to predict and pointless to blame anyone

I will blame everyone who voted leave.

Fundamentally Cameron and the hard right Eurosceptics, wealthy individuals all of them, who will not suffer financially as much.
Plus Gove, Johnson, Gisela Stuart, Farage of course, and the filthy fascist right wing rags. Then May for being so pig headed and blinkered when someone with vision and the ability to negotiate and reconcile was required.

The only mandate the Government has now is to support the Single Market, because that was in their manifesto. Otherwise they might just as well deliver blank sheets of paper, tell us they haven't a clue and they will make it up as they go along.

About 1000 people actually searched 'what is the EU' after the vote.

Facts are much less fun, aren't they?

The only mandate the Government has now is to support the Single Market

But... hasn't May said we won't remain in the single market?

Frankly the vote seems to be a "mandate" for any number of things, depending on who you are and why you voted... It is a mandate to leave Europe but remain in the single market, to leave the single market, to make Britain Great again, to get rid of johnny Foreigner, to spend 350 million a week on the NHS...

Nobody specified EXACTLY what would happen in the event of a leave vote (other than, you know, the obvious) and because there was no REAL "manifesto" or "vision of Britain post EU" they can just make it all up and say "well, you voted Leave - there is a mandate for this now."

Whatever.

May has said we won't remain in the single market, so I have written to my MP to ask her where in the Tory Manifesto of 2015 it says that if the vote is Leave the Govt. will seek a 'hard-Brexit'. Otherwise, as far as I am concerned, their manifesto commitment to support the single market still stands.

Those prize fuckwits...

Johnson
Gove and farage

Cameron for fucking it up in the first place

Anyone who said anything like 'the people have spoken',''suck it up' , 'its democracy' or stated that everyone was now behind brexit. (I know its not their fault but they are fucking irritating)

Those people who either didnt vote 'because their vote didnt matter' or were on telly the next day saying they didnt realise that their vote would count...fuckwits or who voted for stupid fucking reasons

I have no problem with leave voters

Trump...no idea how its his fault but I dont like him

I have others...

Oh yeah

Anyone who said 'what is remains plan'

Again i know its not strictly their fault but that phrase is very irritating

How many Brexiters does it take to change a lightbulb?
None, they are waiting for the Remainers to do it for them.

Every government in my lifetime.

And Lily Allen.

Lol @ lily allen

Osborne for the austerity which lead to the leave vote.

Cameron for the referendum.

The liars in the leave campaign.

And, to a lesser extent, any MP who knew it would be a disaster yet put their job ahead of the country's best interests. That includes most of the Labour Party, for which I will never vote again.

Confidence is important in economic outcomes as it feeds into spending and investment. That is why economists take confidence numbers seriously (and why ardent remainers were furiously quoting them when they collapsed after the referendum....not so much now),

That is why economics is a bit of a shit science. It is like Heisenberg's uncertainty principle multiplied a thousand fold. Well, that and most economists effectively being paid lobbyists for their employers whilst pretending to offer dispassionate analysis.

This is such a ridiculous thread, assuming something will fail, which has not happened yet, and then deciding whom to blame.

I suspect that if we make a success out of Brexit in the next few years, the posters will be saying ahhh, it is the wrong type of Brexit, or that we would have been better off not brexiting (with zero evidence to back it up).

As opposed to 'who would you blame' games let's consider whom to blame for the Southern European economic desert, the brain drain in the Eastern block, the opaque and corrupt tax free gravy train of European diplomats, why most of Europe rely on the USA for its defence, why the ECB is breaking its own mandate (and European law) by stockpiling toxic government bonds to defend the Euro.....inter alia.

Cameron

The lying bunch of tossers who made up the LEAVE campaign

The fucking stupid voters who swallowed it all hook, line and sinker and voted to leave.

Every foolish, bigoted and shortsighted leave voter...all of them!

The assassin.

Anyone who put this vote into the Tory manifesto, anyone in power that said that the referendum was anything other than advisory and those who framed the question in such a way that it means different things to different people (and in doing so made not even one scrap of a plan).

1 Cameron
2 Those who did not vote to stop him getting in
3 Those who voted him in
4 Those who did not vote in referendum because they failed to educate themselves and where unable to make a decision
5 Those who voted leave despite the baltent lies because they wanted to kick the establishment and 'never in a million years thought we would leave'

I do not blame genuine leave voters but I have yet to meet one. The number of people who admitted to voting purely to kick the establishment or because they didn't really understand the question is frustrating.

Once a disaster has happened, it won't really help anyone to blame others, will it? It won't change anything, the only purpose of blaming is to make sure things don't happen again and this is a once-in-a-lifetime chance for a Conservative power grab, lurch to the hard right and drop in living standards.

Also, I love the people who are coming on and already planning the "roaring success" and waiting for their apologies. Who thinks the best part of making a success of something is the apologies, for God's sake? If it is that sort of success I don't want to be in it.