If leaving the EU is a complete and utter disaster, who will you blame?

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Ten years down the line, the economy is struggling because of it, troubles in NI are inflamed again, I'm scared to even think what might go wrong in Gibraltar or a split with Scotland. Anyway, if it is a huge mistake, who will be at fault?

The uk has never been more irrelevant on the global stage
Not one US newspaper had TMs visit on the front page.
Whilst outs are dominated by that orange buffoon
It makes me smile when learners talk putting the great back into Britain - they have made us a laughing stock and the years of post war peace and posterity are over
TM will start to sell off the NHS to American firms
DT will drag us into another ill conceived and illegal war
It's over people
The good times are over

Murdock hates brits
How he must be laughing at us all dancing to his sick evil tune

Cameron is to blame for calling it.

If he had a spine there would have been no referendum.

True

I blame those who voted for the Tories. They brought the loaded gun of EU ref into the bedroom hoping that it would not be used. And it was and the result is deadly.

What do you mean 'if'?

There's a long list. The tabloid press is pretty high up there. Various politicians - Corbyn is the one I'm most angry with at the moment. Such a disappointment.

We'll have no-one to blame but ourselves.

I'll have a good go though

I do blame Dacre, not so much for what is being published now, as for the years and years and years he spent othering the EU. Long before it was routine to other Muslims, immigrants, refugees the way that it is now normal to do. Just the simple measure of writing about 'the EU' and 'Britain' as if they were two separate things, usually at odds, and that our membership of the EU didn't actually exist. Of course, if there was anything positive 'Britain' had done it. If there was anything negative 'the EU' had done it, without 'Britain's' involvement. Like Noel Edmonds and his cosmic ordering - live and behave as if your goal has already been achieved.

What is true, though, is that if it had really been his fault, it would never have worked. Lots of people agree with Dacre and his cohorts. I'm a Remainer and a member of the metropolitan liberal elite and I wasn't particularly enthusiastic about the EU, it had a hell of a lot of problems and seemed to be becoming a religion of its own. But I have read a bit of history, and I certainly thought it was stratospherically better than what I do think is the inevitable alternative, which is war. I know that there are many who felt that the continued existence of the EU will lead to war as well, probably with Russia, and they are just as likely as me to be right.

What I think will be bitter in a few years is if the EU collapses, or perhaps continues in a shadowy rump form, I will always think that it was Brexit's fault. Which I know many people won't agree with, they will think it justifies the Leave vote as we would have been 'dragged down' by a collapsing EU. I think we ran away from our neighbours, thinking we could indulge in a fit of nativism in the same protected environment we have been in for forty years, only to find that everyone else is being nativist too, funnily enough.

anna That's because it will be brexit's fault. You only have to look at who on the international stage was celebrating eg -

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/world/683366/Russia-Brexit-financial-mafia-EU-DISAPPEAR-referendum-vladimir-putin/amp?client=safari

And trump, of course.

David Cameron,

The 52%. I'm yet to hear a valid argument from a "leaver". Flipped coins and " ah well change is good" from the leavers I know.

"We'll have no-one to blame but ourselves."

What do you mean ourselves? Why would I blame myself when I did all I could to prevent it happening?

Fair enough, I'll have noone to blame but myself.

Why's that Anna? Did you vote leave? Did you not campaign? Did you not persuade any of your friends to vote Remain?
I pounded the pavements, knocked on doors, posted on Facebook (yes, I think that does influence people) and helped 'convert' a couple of friends, so, no I don't blame myself. Yes, I could have given up my job so I was campaigning full time, but I need money to live and some free time at the weekends as well. I blame politicians who didn't do enough - Corbyn particularly.

I voted remain and I posted on Facebook towards the end, and I did talk to some people, but I didn't make huge efforts and I shouldn't think I persuaded anyone. I was mildly put off trying by the fact that there is nothing about me that does not make me a predictable remainer, but that's just an excuse.

'What do you mean 'if'?'

^^ this

I blame David Cameron. Massive gamble to everyone's welfare (not his!)

Badders America is noitoroius inward looking when it comes to news. I have regular American guests, they have little idea of international politics in general. If wouldn't take tm not being front page news as a sign we are not relevant in the world . Let's say we drop out of the five eyes and see how relevant we are. Let's drop out of un council and see how relevant we are. The American ambassador in UK begged US not to leave eu, not for what we would loose but for what we bring to the eu with all sorts of skills across world stage that benefits eu. They said eu is better with UK a apart of it

What I think will be bitter in a few years is if the EU collapses, or perhaps continues in a shadowy rump form, I will always think that it was Brexit's fault. Which I know many people won't agree with, they will think it justifies the Leave vote as we would have been 'dragged down' by a collapsing EU. I think we ran away from our neighbours, thinking we could indulge in a fit of nativism in the same protected environment we have been in for forty years, only to find that everyone else is being nativist too, funnily enough.

Agree.

Cameron initially, but now May for the way she is going about it. I keep telling myself that she won't be remembered with the glory she wants but will be seen as a weak PM totally out of her depth.

David Cameron and the Bullingdon boys who have pissed the country's future against the wall....

"No-one would have bothered painting the £350M lie on the side of a bus if they did not think it would have the effect of manipulating a particular type of person to vote in a particular way. It is disingenuous for the people who did this to say, afterwards, 'ah... but it only said could give the money to the NHS,' as if the whole thing was just a playful little matter of semantics."

There is a parliamentary committee online. They were questioning people on the one of the Leave campaigns. They were disdainful of any questioning.

They presented a pamphlet stating something along the lines of vote leave to protect your local hospital. It has an NHS logo on it as if it was an NHS pamphlet. One of the guys was asked if it was one of his productions. He said something ridiculous along the lines of 'no not that particular pamphlet you have in your hand at the moment." They had produced these and left them in hospitals as if the medical staff or NHS administration was backing leave vote for the good of the health service. Or that a leave vote was good for hospitals and the NHS. They knew exactly what they were doing by falsely pretending the leaflet was from the NHS. I'll try to find the vid.

One of them actually spoke like Gove. OH said casually 'they obviously have training from the same spin doctors" I don't know if Gove was involved in the duplicitous leaflets. He was part of the bus campaign though. And yet voted against committing the money to the NHS. A guy you can trust, what?

I'll blame every single leave voter. I started off trying to be sympathetic to leavers but then I realised they were all either racist, nuts, thick as hell and stopped having any respect for them. My anger knows no bounds on this....... every single one of them is to blame.