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The Brexit Arms. A friendly place for anyone wanting to chat about Brexit.

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surferjet · 14/01/2017 15:07

Pull up a chair and relax.....Smile

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howabout · 25/01/2017 10:00

The difference as I see it Informal is that in the final analysis the UK government can always decide not to honour the WTO or NATO agreements. According to the SC this was not the case for the EU because EU law had become entwined as a source of UK law through the 1972 Act - probably semantics but also an interesting comparison with the US position given DT's swift change in direction from Obama. Smile

All good here Rorty. Brew

Interesting study produced by the whisky industry looking at gross and net trade figures. They are not that concerned about rising import costs due to sterling weakness as their input imports are £200 m but their output exports are £4 billion. Very different from the car sector.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-38737183

Happy Burns Night everyone Wine

surferjet · 25/01/2017 10:43

Nicola Sturgeon had the right hump - still, she gets the chance to carry on thinking she's William Wallace.

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howabout · 25/01/2017 10:58

A wee bit Burns:

... Then let us pray that come it may,
(As come it will for a' that,)
That Sense and Worth, o'er a' the earth,
Shall bear the gree, an' a' that.
For a' that, an' a' that,
It's coming yet for a' that,
That Man to Man, the world o'er,
Shall brothers be for a' that.

DebbieDownersGiveItARest · 25/01/2017 11:34

If NS is unhappy thats usually a good thing for brexit. She doesn't want brexit and she doesn't understand it.

DebbieDownersGiveItARest · 25/01/2017 11:36

Happy Burns Night!!

This was part of Tam O Shanter constantly quoted by My Dad he loved this part and did pantomine dame eye rolling etc.

"The mosses, waters, slaps, and styles,
That lie between us and our hame,
Where sits our sulky sullen dame
Gathering her brows like gathering storm,
Nursing her wrath to keep it warm.

He used to annoy my poor DM with it but I guess its NS today Smile

howabout · 25/01/2017 12:03
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SemiPermanent · 25/01/2017 12:07

Actual lol at Theresa May!

She's just done exactly what I thought she would in PMQs - she just said
"Of course I'll produce a white paper - it'll be out soon"

Just took the wind right out of everyone's sails...

SemiPermanent · 25/01/2017 12:09

lol at NS being depicted so perfectly by Burns Grin

SemiPermanent · 25/01/2017 12:18

Jeremy Corbyn's gone all shouty these days at PMQs - what happened to his whispery approach, simply reading out emails from the great British public??

"Moira from Doncaster says she had trouble with getting a doctor's appointment for Trevor... etc etc"

He needs to watch his blood pressure, all this rage is not good for him...

Inkanta · 25/01/2017 13:03

'She's just done exactly what I thought she would in PMQs - she just said
"Of course I'll produce a white paper - it'll be out soon"

Just took the wind right out of everyone's sails...'

Did she say that! That's brilliant Smile

Corbyn is more and more irrelevant these days.

SemiPermanent · 25/01/2017 13:12

I paraphrased, but that was the gist of it - Jezza was all fired up to fight her on the white paper thing, but there was a question before Jezza (planted presumably) by a Tory re a white paper and she said 'yes'.

RortyCrankle · 25/01/2017 15:07

Good old TM. To be honest has Corbyn ever been anything other than irrelevant? Do you think he could possibly be a Remainer on here? They all spout the same old rubbish Grin

Happy Burn's Night to anyone north of the border - lang mae yer lum reek.

SemiPermanent · 25/01/2017 15:58

This is worth a read - Guido Fawkes take on today's PMQs - made me actual lol:

https://order-order.com/2017/01/25/first-as-tragedy-then-as-farce/

Loved this bit about Jezza's prep:

"...In this spirit, the Labour leader decided to come to PMQs today dressed in the most lurid brown suit known to man. One can only imagine the conversation in Holloway Road market:
^“Morning Sir, how can we help you?”
“Oh hello there, I was wondering if you had any tailoring in the shade of human excrement? Preferably oversized too, of the sort a Uzbek goat herder would wear at a funeral? You know, a real statement piece?”
“Why you’re in luck Sir”, the merchant would say, his eyes lighting up, “we have this exquisite lounge suit right here, hewn from the very finest turd-brown Soviet polyester sent straight from Vladivostok. It’s going to set you back a grand though I’m afraid. Currency fluctuations post Brexit, you see sir, they really hit us humble artisans hard”.

Having parted with his cash Corbyn marched straight to Parliament no doubt feeling particularly buoyed by his pal Seumas’s six solid questions demanding the PM present a Brexit white paper immediately. But then, no! Disaster struck!
Up popped professional brown nose Chris Philp (formerly of the Remain campaign) to get things underway with a planted question about the need for a “government white paper laying out our vision for a global Britain”. The PM spent a few sentences name-checking other Tory Remainers who had also made such calls before calmly responding: “I can confirm that our plan will be set out in a White Paper published for the House”. This is the point at which more hip leaders would have ic or said m”.^.."

SemiPermanent · 25/01/2017 16:09

PM TM goading Jezza:

"As usual with Labour, the right hand's not talking to the far left..."

GrinGrin

https://order-order.com/2017/01/25/may-hits-corbyn-killer-sadiq-quotes/

RortyCrankle · 25/01/2017 17:56

SemiPermanent - love it Grin

DebbieDownersGiveItARest · 25/01/2017 20:20

Great Semi, Grin More interesting news in case anyone missed this

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-38749884

"The EU has made it clear that Britain cannot enter substantive free trade talks with countries outside the union until it has left the EU, a position Mr Malloch - a supporter of Mr Trump and the Brexit campaign - dismissed.

""I think it is an absurd proposition and may be a legalism," he said.

"There are going to be all kinds of things happening behind closed doors and you can call them what you like.

"The fact is that when your wife is having an affair with someone else, you tell her to stop it, but oftentimes that doesn't stop the relationship."

Mr Malloch said despite the obstacles, Britain would gain a free trade deal well ahead of the rest of the EU and the elections in the Netherlands, France and Germany could lead to a fundamental shake-up of the union.

"I personally am not certain that there will be a European Union with which to have [free trade] negotiations," he said.

"I remind people that the largest merger and acquisition deals in history are often done in about that time frame [90 days]," Mr Malloch, a professor at Henley Business School, said.

The man tipped to be Donald Trump's ambassador to the European Union has told the BBC the single currency "could collapse" in the next 18 months.

Professor Ted Malloch said he would "short the euro" - taking a market position which bets on the value of the currency falling.

RortyCrankle · 25/01/2017 20:28

A very interesting article Debbie thanks for the link.

DebbieDownersGiveItARest · 25/01/2017 20:33

Am on tender hooks as to whether he is chosen to be EU Ambassador though.

RortyCrankle · 26/01/2017 00:39

Definitely one to watch.

SemiPermanent · 26/01/2017 12:33

Today's the day we were supposed to officially enter a recession......

RortyCrankle · 26/01/2017 13:59

Waits with baited breath Grin

RortyCrankle · 26/01/2017 23:32

Make that bated Blush

SemiPermanent · 27/01/2017 01:24

Debbie - just been watching your favourite prof Mr Malloch on This Week...

His verdict on Juncker:

"Mr Juncker was a very adequate mayor of some city in Luxembourg- maybe he should go back & do that again"

GrinGrin

I so badly want him to be the US Ambassador to the EU - it will be hysterical!!

Also, apparently Angela Merkel contacted Trump earlier this week to say she can go to visit short notice whenever...
And he hasn't got round to replying yet! Grin

howabout · 27/01/2017 10:09

Semi went to bed early last night. Now you've decided me on This Week on the iplayer Smile

howabout · 27/01/2017 10:22

Diane Abbott talking a lot of sense.
"MPs voted for a referendum, there was an extraordinary high turn out - 72% - 17m people voted to leave. Many of them in some of our poorest areas. How would it look if a bunch of politicians and commentators in London turned round and said: 'We know you voted to leave but we're just going to ignore you?'"