to share with you the croudfund link for the new legal action to stop brexit

[MarieBurnham]

www.crowdjustice.org/case/brexit-for-the-100/

I've only given a tenner, but there are plenty of rich people (unless it's all stealth boasting about dipique candles) here, so we should be able to help.

It's currently at 18.507k and needs 70!

Want to work in Australia? Fill this form in, find a job that no one else can do, pay for a visa, have the right qualifications...

Risk being thrown out if you get made redundant and don't find something else smartish.

I have British friends in Japan, they've lived there 25+ years. Their children, both born and lived their whole life in Japan have to leave when the reach 21 and are no longer considered to be dependent on their parents. I don't think it's so easy to just go live where you want, even if you're born there.

This is what makes me most sad about leaving the EU, the opportunities my children will lose.

It makes me very happy that my children will have much more opportunities than I had, as soon as we leave the EU. Why be restricted to 27 countries when you can have the whole world to chose from.

They had that before surely supper

I have family in several countries outside of the EU, so they had to fill in a few bits of paper, it does make you a bit more committed to the country you are moving to. In the UK we have a lot of migration and very little integration. Anything you get for free isn't treated with much respect.

What country in the world can we not live and work in?

You are joking, aren't you? You can't just move anwhere in the world and have a right to stay and work. As an example of what it will be like to try and live in the EU as a non-EU citizen, I have lots of American friends who want to stay in Italy and work and it's just not possible without an awful lot of money or job security. Most people cannot manage it.

Why be restricted to 27 countries when you can have the whole world to chose from.

This doesn't make any sense whatsoever. They weren't restricted to 27 countries before Brexit. They will be restricted after Brexit.

I also have family in several countries outside the EU. They had to fill in more than a 'few bits of paper'. I think it took a whole year in one case to gain admission, despite being sponsored by the firm who recruited them initially. They were on the point of giving up, when the necessary permits came through. Contrast this with DD who went to another EU country, registered for the equivalent of a National Insurance Number and got a job pronto.

'Our analysis shows that if the UK leaves the EU without a trade deal UK exporters could face the potential impact of £5.2 billion in tariffs on goods being sold to the EU. However, EU exporters will also face £12.9 billion in tariffs on goods coming to the UK.'

"The analysis uses import data from 2015" - it's assuming that trade levels will stay the same. Are our exports likely to stay the same if our customers are having to pay an extra £5.2bn for what we sell.

More importantly you seem to be missing the point that the £12.9bn paid on imports will ultimately be paid by us, the people and businesses buying the goods in the UK. While it might be a nice windfall for the Treasury, it's not going to be too good for consumers or manufacturers, unless the Treasury chooses to distribute the windfall fairly. What are the chances of that do you think?

Why be restricted to 27 countries when you can have the whole world to chose from.

And yet you say in the next post-

I have family in several countries outside of the EU

So where they restricted to 27 countries or not?

I am not saying you can move to any county in the world at the drop of a hat. I am saying its possible to move to any country in the world. The fact that you have to prove you have a job, or meet other criteria, etc before you are granted entry to them IS A GOOD THING

Why is it good to be allowed to be allowed to turn up in a foreign country with children, with no money, with no job and with no where to live and just say to host country 'sort it'?

*Eu protectionism damages third world countries and leads to death and poverty.

EU rules on GM has condemned millions of children to blindness.*

You are the queen of nonsensical soundbites. Do you regurgitate everything that comes out of Farage's bottom?

By the way your previous comment on the Italian referendum was utter bullshit too, it was for an internal constitutional question and no, the M5S didn't "win" it. No actual political party won it. It wasn't about electing anyone and it had fuck all to do with the EU. I know because I researched it and voted in it. You obviously grabbed a couple off superficial headlines from whatever bigoted news source you frequent and whoops 2+2 makes 543.

Actually I heard that India has said any trade deal with the UK must include concessions on immigration. So maybe we will soon be able to live and work in India and Indians will be able to live and work here.

Well Supermummy I can move to another country at a drop of the hat. It's called FOM and I have made full use of it despite not being filthy rich or even having any money at the beginning. I moved abroad just like those Polish plumbers you no doubt despise.

I am saying its possible to move to any country in the world.

No it's not, not for most people. That criteria you mentioned that people might have to meet is likely to be a very highly skilled job, or 5 million pounds, or family connection, even with all of those things some countries would still just say No.

Most EU trade has low barriers anyway, even the 10% of cars is less than the benefit now being enjoyed due to the low GBP/EUR rate compared to pre-brexit.

The exchange rate 'benefit' is truly a double-edged sword to the motor industry. Many of the inputs involved in manufacturing a vehicle in the UK are tied to the € and $ anyway. And being foreign-owned the manufacturers want to see per-unit profits staying consistent in the currency they report in, not in pounds.

he fact that you have to prove you have a job, or meet other criteria, etc before you are granted entry to them IS A GOOD THING

That was the same for us before Brexit. UK citizens could move to other countries outside Europe if they met criteria.

But it didn't matter if we wanted to move to Europe to work. In theory, we had just us much right to work as someone born in that country.

You would agree that it's become more difficult for someone who is British to work in Germany compared to say someone born on France.

It makes me very happy that my children will have much more opportunities than I had, as soon as we leave the EU. Why be restricted to 27 countries when you can have the whole world to chose from

How has being in the EU restricted the countries they can work in?

All that's happened is it's got that little bit harder to work in Europe for your children. Children in Europe have A LOT MORE OPPORTUNITY than your children to work in all parts of Europe and EXACTLY the same opportunity as your children to work in the rest of the world.

No it's not, not for most people.
Like wise its just not possible for MOST people to move to another Europe country.

Supermummy - people keep on pointing out to you that what you have written is factually wrong. Please explain how your children will have MORE opportunities now that they will be restricted from living and working in the EU.

Like wise its just not possible for MOST people to move to another Europe country

Ummm. Yes it is. It's called freedom of movement. All they have to do is move to that country. What makes you think they can't move to another country in Europe?

amispartacus

Not India! India might soon be opening it's doors to us, and us to them. :)

Oh the irony, if my racist relatives have closed the door on white Christian European immigrants and opened it to brown, Muslim/Hindu immigrants. I can't wait to see them explode with rage at this.