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Enough is enough

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RBeer · 15/10/2016 14:33

We are now in the throes of a right wing agenda willing to bring down the country for its own ideological beliefs. Bad things happen when good people do nothing. I for one will stand up so lest my children say I did nothing.

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jaws5 · 15/10/2016 16:53

As shared in the other thread, Matthew Parris in The Times sounds alarmed, and there seem to be may prominent Euro sceptics who now are very concerned. The problem is that Leave voters still keep repeating the same mantra they've learned, whatever the evidence. They go on about democracy but don't sound like they can be bothered to even keep up with all that's happening.

RortyCrankle · 15/10/2016 16:55

Aww what will you do? Scream and scream and scream until you're sick, like Violet Bott? Of course, not forgetting stamping your feet.

Whoever voted in Corbyn as leader of labour has effectively voted for the Tories in 2020 and beyond since he will never win an election. I love the irony - vote loony left, get a Tory Government.

I'm intrigued by the fact that both Salmond and Sturgeon have fishy names. I wonder who will be the next leader? Maybe Pollock .... or should that be Pillock.

Too funny Grin.

jaws5 · 15/10/2016 16:57

Do you enthusiastic Brexit cheerleaders ever say anything with actual content? Do you read? Anything?

Bearbehind · 15/10/2016 16:59

FGS, here comes another of the flag waving Leaver who says nothing about what's actually happening.

rorty what do you think about Matthew Parris' article in the Times?

Peregrina · 15/10/2016 16:59

Vote Tory - Bargain - get UKIP thrown in as a bonus.

ToujeoQueen · 15/10/2016 17:00

I doubt they've read it Bear

jaws5 · 15/10/2016 17:02

I remember the opposition to the Irak war. I campaigned, marched with two million in London and it was clear that there were no weapons of mass destruction. I remember the feeling of impotence and the heartbreak of seeing the first bombs hit Bagdad, and the conversations with (the same Brexit voter) friends who believed the government. This feels very similar.

MagikarpetRide · 15/10/2016 17:04

I'll stand up and be counted. I've been told too much recently that I'm not British enough because I'm a 'half blood' so I'd rather go down in a blaze of inclusivity and liberal thinking than for the uncontrollable fact of where my DM was born.

jaws5 · 15/10/2016 17:09

Magik that's truly shocking! "half blood"? What's happening in a country where people thinks it's acceptable to speak like that? Is this what membership of the EU has been supressing, and now it's ok to let it out?

smallfox2002 · 15/10/2016 17:13

Love the fact that the brexit posters are here confirming all the stereotypes are true.

Bearbehind · 15/10/2016 17:14

jaws it's sadly quite easy to see where the decline in our society is coming from.

There is a terrifying wave of people who are just being carried along by what they see as the euphoric victory of leaving the EU.

Posters like rorty, wendy and surferjet are just a few examples of this. They don't actually understand the implications of what we are going through and I suspect all 3 just want rid of the forriners.

jaws5 · 15/10/2016 17:17

Yes... Foreigners like me, and "half bloods" like my children, who have so much to offer and will likely end up un a different country that deserves their talent.

prettybird · 15/10/2016 17:20

....and Rorty's comment about Salmond and Sturgeon's names has exactly what relevance? ConfusedHmm

jaws5 · 15/10/2016 17:25

I'd really be interested in rorty's opinion on that M Parris article... wendy yours too, please. The Times today. There is a link in the Westministers thread if you have no subscription.

jaws5 · 15/10/2016 17:26

pretty my 9 year old would find that "joke" pathetic. That's the level I'm afraid...

prettybird · 15/10/2016 17:41

I'm an adopted Scot - came here when I was 3, naturalised when I was 10. (a loooooong time agoBlush). So as far as I am concerned, I am Scottish.

I've been told on a Facebook group which debates issues around Scottish independence that I didn't have the right to comment as I was an "immigrant". Not, I hasten to add, by the independence supporting Scots, but by the Unionists. Angry

I used to be proud to say I was British first, then Scottish - said frequently in French, whilst also explaining that I wasn't English, during my year abroad as part of my degree (this was shortly after the devolution vote in which to my shame I would have voted No as it was, I couldn't vote as it was a few weeks before my 18th, but my vote counted as a No as I was on the electoral register).

No longer. I am Scottish, full stop. I can't stop being British, as Scotland will still geographically be part of Great Britain, but I am no longer proud to be British. Sad

What Theresa May is doing is most definitely not in my name. At least I can be confident that both my MP and MSP will continue to oppose what is happening.

RortyCrankle · 15/10/2016 17:43

jaws5
Do you enthusiastic Brexit cheerleaders ever say anything with actual content? Do you read? Anything?

Nah cos as u brill Remoaners keep telling us we is thick innit. Smile

I read avidly about Brexit, both for and against, as my worn out old hard drive would testify with the numerous bookmarked links. As I've said before, I (and probably other Leavers) am not prepared to expend effort on posting anything significant on here simply to be called unpleasant names and have what I have written derided and scorned by Remoaners. I'm not into self-flagellation and certainly have no wish for others to do it to me.

I read the Telegraph and not The Times as its owned by Murdoch of whom I strongly disapprove so will neither buy the paper nor pay to access their website.

I'm sure Matthew Parris is a nice enough chap but unless he has been ordained as the Second Coming (even then since I'm an atheist), I'm not sure why you think I would be particularly impressed by his article, any more than you would be impressed by a pro-Brexit article by someone of my choice of equal standing.

Anyway its about time to leave the bottomless pit of negativity that is the EU Referendum Board. Au revoir.

Bearbehind · 15/10/2016 17:49

rorty whatever your reading material of choice, could you actually offer us an opinion on the current situation rather than the sarcastic nonsense you keep posting?

I recall only last week you said you would only come back once a month as its so negative on here yet a) you're back and b) you offer absolutely nothing to counter the negativity.

smallfox2002 · 15/10/2016 17:50

Ah so a leaver who arrives on the site, makes derisory remarks and then complains of them being directed at them? You say you have read avidly but aren't prepared to explain your reasons?

I've actually not noticed you do anything other than the above ever.

TTFN

RortyCrankle · 15/10/2016 17:58

Now you've made me angry. You can fuck off with calling me racist. I am not, nor have I ever been racist - I have friends from other countries, both EU and non-EU and if you search my posts you will see that I have, on many occasions said that immigration was NOT the deciding factor for me to vote Leave. I have also said, more than once that I am happy for those for those who are here working and contributing to remain and also accept new immigrants if they are here to work and provide the skills we need. Not that any of you actually give a shit about what the truth might be.

Actually, if you want the truth I think you people are ridiculous, arrogant, rude, self absorbed and your self back-sapping, silly, repetitive, pathetic posts are a constant source of amusement to me.

Scrub the au revoir

jaws5 · 15/10/2016 17:58

So, democracy in action: I've written to my MP reiterating the supremacy of Parliament re: Art50. Also my concern about the xenophobia that many of us EU citizens have suffered in the last 3 months. Also I have written to BBC and Telegraph about the semantic implications and charged connotations of the language used to describe the situation - with specific examples. I really don't know what else to do.

Bearbehind · 15/10/2016 18:05

your silly, repetitive, pathetic posts are a constant source of amusement to me.

As are yours to us.

If you won't engage in conversation about what you want from Brexit people will assume you are happy with the current push towards immigration being the number one focus.

If immigration wasn't your deciding factor than why aren't you furious with the direction we are heading?

smallfox2002 · 15/10/2016 18:07

"Actually, if you want the truth I think you people are ridiculous, arrogant, rude, self absorbed and your self back-sapping, silly, repetitive, pathetic posts are a constant source of amusement to me. "

I think you can't justify your reasons for voting leave and that your inability to do so allows me to make a judgement on why that is.

You keep popping up with gleeful posts about winning, and suggesting that others shut up and how bad this place is but you keep returning, much sooner than your own self imposed deadline.

If your not racist, you aligned yourself with them to achieve your "victory" which makes you as bad as them.

jaws5 · 15/10/2016 18:07

But rorty it would be great to hear why are you so optimistic about the current situation. But you just come here and insult us and claim you're not racist (which nobody has called you) because you have foreign friends.

smallfox2002 · 15/10/2016 18:15

A gem of a quote from a ref thread in AIBU:

"I voted to leave and I stick by my vote because I am sick of Polish and Romanians being allowed to just come here and bleed the benefits system dry when they have paid nothing in to it take all the houses and think they are entitled to hell and all from the NHS. We'll all be better off out of the EU and we'll get the country that we had back. The country that men gave their lives to fight for during WW2 has long gone and we now pander to the demands of every other country we need to get our country back and send everyone who no longer has a right to be here packing. Look what happened when Tony Blair dragged us in to the mess with America we ended up becoming a target and got bombed that would never of happened if we hadn't been dragged in to the mess."