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The Westminster Hunger Games Contines. May Day! May Day!

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RedToothBrush · 13/07/2016 19:56

THE BREXIT FALLOUT CONTINUES - THREAD NINE

The Tories have settled their scores and May is now PM.
Is it May's Day or May Day for the people?

After careful consideration I thought the best way to sum up the Labour Contest was in one simple picture. May Day, might also be appropriate here too.

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Things are moving fast, so hold on tight for the Brexit Ride

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/2683852-The-Westministenders-Hunger-Games-continues-Hunting-for-the-Opposition?pg=1 Previous Thread Eight.

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thecatfromjapan · 13/07/2016 23:21

Red I saw that. I assumed it was an attempt at 'spin': I'm a supporter of the ladies! That nasty violence against women can't be anything to do with me!

Thanks for letting me say that.

I really hope ShowMe will be OK.

And, of course, that should have been Emma Goldman. I watch too much trashy television! Grin

Showmethewaytogohome · 13/07/2016 23:30

cat yes yes and yes. In show world. Have still not got reassurance from momentum that as a non Corbyn person/woman/human being that I will be safe to express my opinions. They will not answer any questions at all.

Still do not know who runs momentum - who the fuck is it? What is the governance. I have asked the founder. The central Momentum chapter My local chapter and Nadda. Where has my money gone to? I don't even know who runs my local chapter even tho they are online organising de-selection of MP's.If I joined a nightclub I would know more about governance and ownership. They are taking control of the LP and we know nothing about them!

BigChocFrenzy · 13/07/2016 23:35

I have always expected the worst of JC as Labour leader, having observed since 1983 the thoroughly nasty company he has been keeping, both home and abroad.
He has lived down to my expectations.

I have to admit though to being astonished at the extreme hate that some of his supporters exhibit against women.

  • Not that they feel such hatred, but that they feel free to openly act on it - analagous to the racists on the far right who also now feel able to act in the open:
the extremists of both left & right have become extraordinarily bold recently.

TM is trying to calm things down on the right and is also trying to be inclusive by returning to One Nation Conservatism. She'll hope to tempt left of centre voters left in the empty wilderness

JC seems to regard Labour women as acceptable collateral damage, so that Momentum to take over the Labour Party and its machine.
imo, he is despicable and it is a complete disgrace to the Labour Party that so many members chose him as leader and still blindly support him.

thecatfromjapan · 13/07/2016 23:41

Twitter, 3 hours ago. From @cathnewman's account:

Antony Thomas@geniaphobic

@cathynewman This is bollocks.No proof it's @PeoplesMomentum. How d'you know Eagle didn't arrange brick? @jeremycorbyn acted appropriately.

Cathy Newman @cathynewman

To suggest @angelaeagle put a brick through her own constituency window is bollocks my friend.

(Sorry if I've muffed the lay-out - I'm new to this!)

I've just seen this. Sad Cathy Newman's timeline is a treat. There are women thanking her for an interview she's done earlier. And (male) Corbynites telling her it's six of one, half a dozen of the other (because Corbyn's been heckled at times. And the media treat him badly). And she's being told to delete her account.

Seriously, the Corbyn revolution has turned into UKIP. And the followers are quite UKIPpy in their desire to put up with all kinds of vileness in the (presumed) promise of unicorns at some later (unspecified) date.

I am going to stop ranting. It's just that I think I have just woken up to something that has been going on that I ignored. And I feel complicit in some way.

OneArt · 13/07/2016 23:41

Well said thecat. It is absolutely appalling Angry Sad

thecatfromjapan · 13/07/2016 23:43

Seriously, ShowMe? They can't even/won't even tell you that? Shock

SwedishEdith · 13/07/2016 23:43

Totally agree thecatfromjapan. Cathy Newman getting crap tonight for her interview with Johanna Baxter.

SwedishEdith · 13/07/2016 23:45

Sorry for cross-post - internet crashed

SwedishEdith · 13/07/2016 23:49

Cathy Newman ‏@cathynewman 2h2 hours ago
Cathy Newman Retweeted John Brown
I've seen with my own eyes the threats she's received and it amounts to abuse not challengeCathy Newman added,
John Brown @John999Brown
@cathynewman @suicideresearch @JohannaBaxter No, JB cant cope with serious politics.JC did nothing wrong. JB thinks challenge=abuse WRONG!

OlennasWimple · 13/07/2016 23:54

Utterly depressing that what should be a great day for women in politics is undermined by all that - which of course is what those misogynist twats want, isn't it Sad

QueenLaBeefah · 13/07/2016 23:56

I really can't imagine voting for Labour at the moment. This momentum gang seem like a bunch of women hating thugs.

maggiecate · 14/07/2016 00:06

Having just seen him getting interviewed by the beeb leaving the FCO - very different Boris. No bluster, no General Melchett-ing, talking almost like a normal person - albeit one who looked like he'd just been called back to school by the Headmistress and told him he had to tidy up the mess he'd made in the common room and then apologise to the cleaners. Probably closer to the real deal than we usually see - TV Boris is an act.

I suspect the PM's played him like a fiddle by giving him a job that he can't turn down but where pretty much everyone he's going to be working with think he's an obnoxious idiot; apparently more than anything he needs to be liked. He's easily bored but the FCO mandarins will keep him on a very tight rein indeed and May won't let them loosen it.

He can probably do less damage there (except to himself) because the last thing the country needed was him doing his 'King over the water' act from the safety of his Telegraph column. And if he doesn't make a go of it...well, that's what's left of his reputation shredded. Very hard to make the leap to PM if you've failed in one of the great offices of state and FCO is probably the hardest to bluff your way through.

I hope she offers Leadsom minister for families, just for the burn.

time4chocolate · 14/07/2016 00:10

I don't know much about the finer, more intricate workings of the Labour Party but am keen to try to educate myself more as I have read these threads with great interest and the last few posts have left me a bit Shock. I have just looked up the Momentum website as I have never heard of the group before. I really don't mean any offence to anyone who is a labour supporter but, on first viewing their website info makes me feel a bit uncomfortable, can't quite put my finger on it, but maybe in a slightly Freemasons(ish) way. No offence to any Freemasons/lodges either but they are not in frontline politics like Labour. Please can someone more knowledgeable help me understand it, how strong is the movement in relation to the Labour Party as a whole? Please excuse my ignorance.

rednsparkley · 14/07/2016 00:16

Shamelessly placemarking, these threads are magnificent Star

Muddlingalongalone · 14/07/2016 00:25

Omg these threads move quick......damn my small children & project golive next week interfering with my reading time.

Thought TM's speech was v well written & like last week's one just before loathsome stepped down very much addressed a lot of the issues people were talking about up front.

I had a niggling thought about the caring about the poor & the giving the people options stuff. It screamed privatisation to me for some reason.
Here here poor person, buy yourself some health insurance then you can choose which doctor you want, after all you wouldn't the nasty old government forcing you to be at the mercy of the NHS or you don't want the government in charge of schools, why don't you choose which one of these lovely altruistic non profit making education trusts [academy chains] for your children.

Maybe I'm just being g cynical but despite her being the safest pair of hands I don't buy the caring about the common people rhetoric

Bolshybookworm · 14/07/2016 00:37

I love these threads. They give me blessed relief from my Corbyn-worshipping Facebook friends (who I can't rant at as I like them otherwise). These threads are my safe place!

squoosh · 14/07/2016 00:43

Twitter tells me that beautiful Australian chanteuse Natalie Imbruglia used to go out with.............................disgraced minister Liam Fox!

Shock Shock

Chris1234567890 · 14/07/2016 01:03

Love the Boris appointment! Genius !

(though Im not sure what point heaven is making way back up the thread regards the Offend Erdogan Poetry Competition, whereby, in Turkey and now apparently Germany, you can be locked up for offending the Turkish president, yet in the UK we're giving £1000 for the most offensive poems submitted! Genius campaign by Spectator too Smile

Had hoped Priti Patel would be prominent in the new government, but maybe tomorrow, and do hope Leadsom or Sourby are sent to the back back back benches. A pair of self promoting, economical with the truth women MPs, who let womanhood down in my book.

A tad gutted we will be breaking for summer soon, (though Im sure TM et al will be absolutely flat out over summer recess) but weve got the Olympics to publicly entertain us till September. Im really enjoying the whole shake up in our political arena, its been long overdue, its been dramatic, and the twists and turns never fail to entertain. Oh and how wonderful, the whole PM handover this afternoon had to be interupted today, as the Queen has tea at 5pm and nothing interupts that.

I love Britain! Smile

BigChocFrenzy · 14/07/2016 01:04

May has given the 3 Brexiteers plenty of rope.
Now she can relax and watch them put it to good use Smile

BigChocFrenzy · 14/07/2016 02:07

Ruth Davidson got Bojo the job.
After her wonderful quip:

"That’s the difference between our two parties - Labour is still fumbling with its flies while the Tories are enjoying their post-coital cigarette. After withdrawing our massive Johnson."

TM couldn't resist the temptation to hear Ruth's description of re-inserting the Massive Johnson !

BigChocFrenzy · 14/07/2016 02:15

Osbourne tweeted:
"It's been a privilege to be Chancellor these last 6 yrs. Others will judge - I hope I've left the economy in a better state than I found it."

Is he on GLUE ??

officerhinrika · 14/07/2016 03:22

Good grief, Tom Watson has registered a donation made to him by Max Moseley for £200k! I'm really not sure what to make of that, doesn't seem to be in line with the sort of politician Tom Watson is at all.

Unicornsarelovely · 14/07/2016 05:58

Cat, thank you for your post on Corbyn. I was irritated with Corbyn for his failure to provide any sort of proper opposition but the current situation is appalling and scary. Especially since Jo Cox' murder, he ought to be clamping down on these threats, not minimising then in a way which says we all get threatened but only whiny women moan about it.

HalleLouja · 14/07/2016 06:45

As a Remainer I think May needed to employ the Leavers in prominent positions to stop UKIP having any rope.

Thegirlinthefireplace · 14/07/2016 06:53

Not sure why posters are so thrilled at the prospect of Boris et al fucking up Brexit. If it's a screw up we all go down with the ship.