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The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?

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RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 18:51

THE BREXIT FALLOUT OUT CONTINUES - THREAD SEVEN!

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The Story So Far – Blue Corner
Johnson & Gove stabbed Cameron & Osborne. They then won a big vote about something or other. I forget the details. I’m not sure it matters anymore.

Johnson got then stabbed by Gove. Johnson joined Leadsom. Gove got stung by his mate Boles who was trying stab Leadsom, and he ended up getting stabbed by just about everyone.

Where We Are Now – Blue Corner
Out of the ashes of the mess that the posh boys made, emerged two unexpected contenders to become the Torchbearer for the Tories.

#Team May
The Home Secretary, and the former figure of hate, is now looking like she might be the choice of sanity and the one who might just be able to save us from ourselves. She is the choice of the left and centre. The left and centre now being anyone who thinks ‘The 1950s were very nice, but actually we’d prefer not to go back there. A return to the 1970s is far enough, thanks’.

She is supported by just about the entire mainstream media (which in itself is quite an achievement – The Sun and The Guardian being united in editorial opinion) and the majority of Conservative MPs. We don’t know this, but she quite possibly unites the Labour Party on the subject too.

#Team Leadsom
The Junior minister made good, and has outmanoeuvred all her superiors in the cabinet to throw her hat in the ring. The trouble is that she’s either somewhat naïve, a bit of an arsehole or a scheming liar. And that’s the charitable version.

She is emerging as the Sarah Palin of the UK, and has some dubious looking Tea Party links. In the era of post fact politics Project Fear is now Project Smear. Of course this makes her Mrs Umbridge, the poor apple pie lover, bullied by the political elite and media establishment, rather than a fruit cake.

BUT
Underestimate her appeal at your peril. She has a big field of unicorns somewhere that we’ve not been able to track down on googlemaps so far, and she is preparing to unleash them.

She is the choice of the Right. She is supported by much of the depths of twitter, Louise Mensch, UKIP, Arron Banks, BNP and Britain First.

Oh and that tax return? Hmm

Our future fate is to be decided by 150,000 Conservative Members (two thirds of whom are men and roughly 50% of whom are over sixty).

How we look back at David Cameron’s tweet on the 4th May 2015 with such fondness:
Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband.

Send me the link for the petition to ‘Come Back Dave, all is forgiven’. We have at least six weeks of this particular shower of shit to look forward to, before the next one hits.

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The Story So Far – Purple Corner
Many years ago, Nigel Farage founded the idea and started his one man campaign for the UK to leave the EU. (Except he didn’t. It was someone else’s idea. He just took over and took the credit for it). He became the poster boy for the Leave campaign, despite not being affiliated with it. He stood and claimed victory, without a shot fired.

As he said to the European Parliament with impeccable manners and good grace, ‘We aren’t laughing now’. To be fair to him, we weren’t. We were all shouting ‘FUCK OFF’ instead. After securing his £7000 pay rise as an MEP, he decided enough was enough, and it was time to ‘get his life back’ (he got sacked) and look for a career as a contestant on reality TV shows.

I hear Help I’m a Celeb have offered half a million for his services.

Where We Are Now – Purple Corner
Quicker than you can say, ‘Oh Thank God(win) for that’, we are already are starting to miss ‘Our Nige’, the cheeky chappy from next door. Instead the options are looking bleak, as candidates start to crawl out from under their rocks. The spectre of Arron Banks and his call to arms for ‘freedom’ lurks in the shadow.

For those of you unfamiliar with Mr Banks so far in this story, he’s one of UKIP’s biggest donors. He and his mate Andy Wigmore run an offshore insurance company out of Gibraltar. Banks, was head honcho of Leave.eu and one of his other mates, hypnotist Paul McKenna, gave advice on how to influence people with propaganda. Banks and Wigmore have some connections with Belize. Bank’s ex-wife was accused of being one of the KGB’s best agents. They are now divorced and she has a harassment order out on him. He does not like the ‘Uk elite’ and takes it personality.
Sounds like just the kind of guy, you’d love to move in as a neighbour.

This is the very definition of shit.

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The Story So Far – Red Corner
Once upon a time, there was a man named Blair. He waved a lot of flags said ‘Cool Britannia’ and smiled a lot. But Tony turned out to not be such a good ‘un. He didn’t play by the rules and got caught out. Blair was made to appear on national television to defend himself. He cried, and told us how he couldn’t sleep at night, but actually he did do the right thing and everyone is still wrong and we are all picking on him.

Does he need to go away and think about it for a while? Say, in a locked room for several years?

Where We Are Now – Red Corner
The WMD that Bliar lost in Iraq finally turned up in Labour HQ on 24th June. However, no one has been prepared to let off a controlled explosion yet. Apparently there is something of an aversion to Big Red Buttons (otherwise know to us simple folks as ‘Agreeing on Something’ and ‘Making Decisions’) within the party.

Corbyn, the champion of Momentum, has been carrying on as if nothing is happening, there is no problem and its everyone else is wrong, insisting that since he had a mandate from the people 10 months ago and it’s all still honky dory. He’s doing his job just fine and leading is well, a bit of an inconvenience to his rally schedule.

The Unions seem to have declared war on Tom Watson. His name has been added to the ever growing list of ‘traitors’.

Across the country action has been taken against these ‘traitors’. Normally this behaviour would be classed as ‘thuggery’ and ‘intimidation’. In post-fact Britain though, this is now acceptable, if it’s from the Left. Violence against Labour members is only disgusting if it is carried out by the right, you see.

Apparently, as the Momentum chief says, ‘winning’ is only a ‘small bit’ of democracy that matters to ‘political elites who want to keep power themselves’.

Obviously political gains that help and protect the interests of the working classes and poor are surplus to requirements. I guess their ultimate aim is to win no Labour seats at all then. Good stuff. We are headed in the right direction for that one.

Angela Eagle left her doorstep, and went on the telly after a week of refusing to make a decision to say ‘Ok I’m going to stand to remove a man who refuses to make decisions’. Apparently she is doing this to ‘Heal Labour’.

Someone break it to her, that if Labour gets its legs blown off by Corbynite, the chances of them healing, are somewhat remote.

To make matter worse, Corbyn disagrees with how you get on the ballot paper, and might not be it at this rate. Or it might end up in court. Like article 50.

Owen Smith is the other pretender to the Crown of Roses. We know who he is now. He’s err… He’s still welsh!

What do we reckon the chances of Labour surviving as one party are? Zero to none? This is more like wading through shit than a shower of it.

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The Story So Far – Yellow Corner
Tumbleweed

Where We Are Now – Yellow Corner
Everyone’s been praying for a ruddy miracle to end this torture and give the country an opposition party. Finally, Tim Farron, has awoken, removed his splinters from his arse, got off the fence in response to this. Amid growing rumblings of a complete political realignment and fleeing Labour and Conservative MPs, he says:

‘Hey folks, this political turmoil looks fun, can we join in too?!’

FACEPALM

No shit left to share.

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The consensus of opinion is that we might be a tiny teeny bit screwed.
Did someone mention the EU? EU? Oh fuck that, we’ve just about forgotten all that now!
Bigger fish to fry.
British ones of course.

We need really do need Gandalf to come save us from this madness.

Sense of humour compulsory. No experience necessary though

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LotisBlue · 10/07/2016 20:03

Great summary, thanks red

Floisme · 10/07/2016 20:04

And as for it being a distraction.... I really don't know what to say to that.

Floisme · 10/07/2016 20:06

Sorry the distraction comment was referring to Blair. I feel very strongly about this.

antimatter · 10/07/2016 20:07

This R$ program I listened to yesterday is very interesting.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07jqmrd

Leadsom lied about her job titles and type of responsibilities she had. She is much less experienced than she is claiming.
I guess her not showing tax return is just another aspect of her lack of openenes which may cover more lies.

EmilyDickinson · 10/07/2016 20:07

It was a bit weird seeing Cameron at Wimbledon today. He looked a bit sad (maybe thinking "these are my last Wimbledon freebies because I won't be Prime Minister next Summer") but also not quite himself. I couldn't work out whether resigning, even though it's not actually going to take effect until the Autumn, has diminished him somehow, or whether it's that he doesn't seem especially relevant any more. It's hard to remember that he is still, in theory, running the country.

BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2016 20:08

Farage seems unpopular with many folk, very limited appeal - no wonder Banks wanted him out.
This is a cool street campaign after the Big F visited Bristol at the weekend - photo ops with Farage mask and the Big Finger :
www.bristolpost.co.uk/nigel-farage-gets-booed-on-the-streets-of-bristol/story-29473511-detail/story.html

GingerIvy · 10/07/2016 20:08

Floisme I didn't say he was innocent. I absolutely think they should go after him. But the most pressing issue right now is sorting our working government.

antimatter · 10/07/2016 20:08

It is R4 link Grin

Unicornsarelovely · 10/07/2016 20:15

I think I said it was a distraction. I didn't mean to downplay the issue and I am sorry for suggesting that. However, I think at the moment Corbyn must get on either with becoming an effective opposition or enabling someone else to do so. Going after Blair at the moment allows everyone to remember yet another reason why they hate the Labour Party while the whole movement is in s struggle for survival.

I absolutely agree that Blair must pay for what he did - preferably in The Hague. But it doesn't seem to me to be the most pressing issue before JC tomorrow, and the fact that he thinks it is, once again reinforces for me the fact that his own ideology comes before what his party or even the country needs just at the moment.

To that extent I go think there is an element of distraction for his supporters from what else is going on.

Globetrotter100 · 10/07/2016 20:15

Thanks for the new thread. Hoping for a better fight from the yellow corner this session.

And thanks Red for the recap too...it made me nauseous and deeply frightened, but I guess that's just "project reality" in action for you Sad

derxa · 10/07/2016 20:16

It's hard to remember that he is still, in theory, running the country. I wish he was running the country.

TheBathroomSink · 10/07/2016 20:17

While Banks is the mouth and seriously unpleasant face claiming to be the money behind Ukip, a lot more of the money has actually come from Peter Hargreaves who has actually donated £3.2m to Ukip, not given loans.

Unicornsarelovely · 10/07/2016 20:18

Apparently Farage was receiving death threats both against himself and his children and that has played a significant role in his decision to stand down.

What the hell has been unleashed in this country?

TheBathroomSink · 10/07/2016 20:20

I wish he was running the country. That's just another entry in the 'Things I never thought I'd say' chart, like 'Theresa May is the only possible choice' or 'I think the Lib Dems are being the more effective opposition'

BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2016 20:24

Blair is Dead Man Walking politically, but international lawyers agree he has committed no crime - the statute about agressive war wasn't in place and no law can be used retroactively.

He lied with horrendous consequences for the UK, the Middle East and the world.
He left office 9 years ago
There is an all-party move to cite him for Contempt of Parliament, for lying.
Labour should join in on that, so his legacy is officially disgraced.

Then there is no more that can be done to him.
So ffs move on and do your job as the Official Opposition.

All those years of yelling "fascist" at random enemies.
Now they are a real danger and you haven't even bloody noticed ! Angry
The country is in serious danger of being taken over by the far right and Labour are obsessed with a grubby has-been and with ideological infighting Angry

JeepersMcoy · 10/07/2016 20:30

Cameron has realised he is going to go down in history as the PM who lost the EU referendum and left the government in turmoil. I expect it wasn't exactly the place in the history books he was hoping for. I'm not surprised he looks a bit pale.

nauticant · 10/07/2016 20:30

On the previous thread someone asked about the whereabouts of Gisela Stuart.

She was on Any Questions on Radio 4 making a spectacle of herself. (Quite an achievement on the radio.) One question was about Leadsom's tendency to embroider her past and Gisela did not mince her words in her criticism of such behaviour. Apparently Gisela thinks a politician telling lies to the public is disgraceful, it is simply beyond the pale. Gisela was then asked about the £350M claim and blustered so much I thought my radio was going to blow itself off the worktop.

The issue of racial harassment also come up. She really, really, really doesn't like being asked to look this kind of question in the eye and runs a denial/how very DARE you line.

So, to answer the question I'd say that Gisela is lost in a prison of her own making. She really does not sound happy at all. Getting out of her current bind would seem to require her doing a sincere mea culpa or doing a Blair.

NoCryingInEngineering · 10/07/2016 20:34

Loving your work Red, though it's getting to the point where the summaries need a summary.

I keep waiting for someone sane to step up & take control (particularly on the opposition benches - TM may not be my political cup of tea but she's generally behaving like a grownup) but don't see much chance of it happening. Though I do wonder if one (both?) of the major parties implodes if it will trigger a re engagement and maybe some new candidates coming forward if enough people get sick of kindergarten level political discussion

BigChocFrenzy · 10/07/2016 20:38

No surprise if Cameron is depressed: he has fucked up the country worse than any other PM since Chamberlain.
And at least Chamberlain was trying to avoid a repeat of WW1 carnage - Cameron was just playing party politics.

He promised to deliver a referendum, but made massive errors:

  • He didn't specify a minimum % for change, like other countries normally do for major decisions
  • He wasn't prepared to oppose the Leave Tories properly, or to let the Remain campaign hammer them. Because he prioritised the Tory party and wouldn't attack his mates. Leave attacked full out. Remain had one hand tied behind their back by Cameron.
  • He misjudged and didn't realise that his mate Boris - Master of Con - would defect for career reasons. Boris probably increased Leave several %
  • He pissed off Labour so much that Corbyn & others wouldn't stand alongside him on a Remain platform, so Remain was divided and incoherent.
GingerIvy · 10/07/2016 20:43

Looks like there are still some changes in the pipeline to make things difficult for the poor and vulnerable. Too much to hope that a government in chaos would stop penalising them, eh?

www.econotimes.com/GovCoin-Sy...s-in-UK-233316

www.cityam.com/245128/government-has-quietly-been-testing-blockchain-technology

SwedishEdith · 10/07/2016 20:44

Thank you - it was me who was asking about Gisela Stuart. She might wonder about who she was prepared to get into bed with. I wonder if she does?

Apparently, one of Paul Nuttall's reasons for not running is because of the death threats to Farage. Can they not see that the have been part of a climate that's created such a toxic atmosphere?

Floisme · 10/07/2016 20:46

I still disagree. The Iraq invasion is the most shameful period in the labour party's history. And it was a cabinet decision, not just Blair. Politically inexpedient or not, It needs addressing. It's the only right thing to do.

RedToothBrush · 10/07/2016 21:07

Loving your work Red, though it's getting to the point where the summaries need a summary.

Yep, definitely! That one took on a life of its own.

labourlist.org/2015/07/the-political-elite-need-to-lay-off-jeremy-corbyn/
What difference a year makes. An article by Angela Eagle about Corbyn dated 24th July, 2015

Mhairi Hunter @MhairiHunter
OK so rUK are now separatists, SNP are EUnionists, while Sinn Fein are campaigning for a united Ireland under the banner #BetterTogether.
Confused

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-pound-sterling-bitcoin-prices-unstable-volatile-exchange-referendum-a7129311.html
And the pound is more unstable than the imaginary bitcoin.

Oh and saw this photo on twitter, and it was too good not to share.

The Westministenders / Media Baron Hunger Games continues. Is it about to all implode?
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rednsparkley · 10/07/2016 21:12

Wow, thread seven!! I have to say that I have learned more about how politics in this country works from these threads than I ever did at school which is quite shameful Blush

Huge thanks to all who are contributing, it's been very enlightening. I am even considering actually paying out and joining a political party after 20-odd years as a floating voter.

ReggaeShark · 10/07/2016 21:12

Gotta get me back on twitter (but not sure I've got time for that AND these threads).

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