Just watched the Panorama programme on why people voted leave

[ssd]

and am livid

so many people who had zero fucking clue what will now happen to this country, so many wanting to have England back to how it was years ago, well guess what it wont fucking happen, time doesnt go backwards and the immigration wont get any better, it wont stop and it wont go away, all thats happened is this country will now be less competitive and the economy will tank, and when the economy tanks they have to get the money from somewhere and it'll come from the poor as the services they rely on will be cut, massively

and this was meant to be a protest vote!!

why dont so many leave voters actually realise what the are protesting about, lack of schools, housing, the nhs queues, has happened because the tory government have followed an austerity agenda we didnt even need and thats why there is a chronic shortage of housing/school places, as none of these services are being built and if you think voting leave and having a more right wing tory government in place will help these services out by christ you've got another thing coming

its fucking maddening

ssd, I'd dearly love to wallow in your praise but I'm not at all the go-getter you think I am!

I was medically discharged last year from the RAF after 20 years, so I had to do something different - I can't (and don't want to tbh!) carry on doing my previous trade anymore (was aircraft techie).
The MoD are paying for my degree thankfully - I couldn't have afforded to do it otherwise.

I've been incredibly lucky that out of losing everything (job, health, marriage, income), I've been given opportunities back in the other hand.
It's definitely more luck than judgement...

Still though Mango, well done xx

Is it you who is training as a paramedic Mango? Or something healthcare?

No - no actual direction at all for me!
I'm doing combined Psychology/Sociology purely because I am fascinated by those subjects.

I've had a few ideas about what to do after, I was toying with tying it into my experience within aviation & perhaps doing an aviation human factors masters after and going into that field (if I even finish the first degree!), but now I have a fancy for doing some sort of politics qual as I've been completely swept up in all this.

I'm sure I'll change my mind a hundred times over the next 3 years though!

Thanks smallfox

Most of the reasons seem entirely rational in comparison to my FIL.

He voted leave as a protest because he thought remain would win . I actually thought this kind of thing was an urban myth.

basic my df voted ukip in the last ge because he was sick of the benefit cuts to the disabled bangs head on table

but now I have a fancy for doing some sort of politics qual as I've been completely swept up in all this.

That's an easier- to-predict benefit of Brexit

I think things will get better for the working poor.

There is no rational basis for thinking that - more of a pie in the sky possibility with a rather more likely possibility that things will get worse for everyone with 'the working poor' being the first to suffer. FWIW, things the EU is not the reason why things have been bad for 'the working poor'.

How do you think this is going to affect 'the working poor?'

BTW anyone really concerned about 'the poor' in general should vote for Corbyn. He's the only one who genuinely gives a damn.

I've a burgeoning feeling of respect for Corbyn now actually.

He's not all about the power & popularity like a lot of them.
Definitely more driven by principle.

Lol Dacre:

What benefit had come from Brexit?

.... Well, Mango's dead interested in doing a politics Q now...

I've always liked Corbyn. I hope they don't manage to get rid of him.

I voted for Corbyn, but as he doesn't play the media game, they are hell bent on crucifying him

its a damn shame

Get a grip.

It was panorama fgs on the bbc who have been blatantly biased throughout .

It was emotive it was meant to be

Interviewing leavers who are talking in depth about how they feel the EU is corrupt etc will not have made an interesting or controversial programme people would have switched off

Op you are calling people dumb yet you have been sucked in by this manipulative programme. I would have expected this on ITV shame on the BBC

I hope to Christ this programme was one sided

did you miss that bit of my post EnthusiasmDisturbed?

I do not need to watch Panorama, I can listen to my in-laws.

No

Hi Mango - great to see that you have become interested in taking your interest in politics further. Result and one good tick for Brexit! Rest it of course is a huge bloody disaster.

So mango in a genuinely nice way...you couldn't be assed to listen to the arguments both ways but you're fascinated now it doesn't make any difference?

Give me strength.

I'm considering joining the labour party to vote for Corbyn. He's the only person who has any idea where he wants to go or has any real interest in shrinking the ever-widening rich-poor divide. If the bulk of Leave voters voted for Corbyn instead they might get something much closer to what they wanted.

I'm considering joining the labour party to vote for Corbyn.

I considered that but I felt like a bit of a fraud. Politics only inerest me when I have to be interested in order to decide who/what to vote for and I don't always agree with all of Labours policies.

I do however strongly believe that Corbyn is the only politician in a long term, if ever even, who actually cares about making things better for those at the bottom.

I was never a massive Corbyn fan before - I liked him etc, but couldn't see him as PM, although I did think he was a good opposition voice.
The last few weeks however, I've built up a lot of respect for him.