Nigel farage has resigned as ukip leader

[MsKite]

According to the FT on Twitter 😳

Does anyone else want to just say 'time out' at the moment?

'Oh bless you, do you really think that Farage - the national joke - has any influence whatsoever over Murdoch?'

Farage is not a national joke, just like Trump isn't and after Trump tangled with Murdoch, Murdoch had to back down and smell the coffee and accommodate Trump.

Murdoch has global objectives and he has to decide which "career politician" can advance his interests and beliefs and agendas.

Farage is easily one of our most gifted politicians, the man who singlehandedly won teh Euro elections, the first time in 100 years that one of teh big two parties did not win, and the man who was the main person respnsible for getting us the referendum and out of the EU.

If Murdoch were to throw his weight behind Farage, the "career politicians" would face a real challenge, but Farage is not a "career politician" so he can't be used for anything as he only cares about one issue.

'and conveniently ignoring my question - do you think it's more worthy to perpetuate great stonking lies to win a referendum'

I ignored it becaue I don't think Farage lied, unlike the exaggerations of Cameron and the team, and there is no point going over the entire campaign again, because the people won.

Murdoch has global objectives and he has to decide which "career politician" can advance his interests and beliefs and agendas.
This sentence actually makes me feel physically sick. And how come you know so much about Murdoch?

Farage is easily one of our most gifted politicians

A gifted politician would do something positive and not quit once he's achieved his ambition.

Boris and Farage have walked away. Job done. Referendum achieved.

I'm sorry but a politician should care about their country, ignore the media hacks and get on with the job. I want someone who will stand by their beliefs, stand up for them and stay when the going gets tough - and who does not give a shit what the media think about them.

This is the 21st century. BBC, the Mail are not as important as they think they are. There are other ways of getting a message across and the papers are not kingmakers.

Boris and Farage have no guts.

Because I follow politics and understand what goes on, not the spin the "career politicians" say.

The entire EU project has been stopped short, it could now possibly collapse as Farage says he wants to help the "other independence movements across Europe". That is why Farage told the EU Parliament "you're not laughing now"

For over 40 years, teams of civil servants, teams of bureaucrats, Cameron and the team, global bankers and global business have been working on the shared sovereignty project of the EU, and one man in England was the constant thrn in their side and they laughed at him then, but they aren't laughing at him now, because he has ended all their dreams and schemes. That is why Farage is not a joke, he beat them.

looby..... sorry! Mis-interp from me. Same point....and yay! I agree, its good news.

'A gifted politician would do something positive and not quit once he's achieved his ambition.'

Yes you are right, but Farage is not a "career politician", he only had one objective and that has been met.

Boris had no choice, he would have loved to become PM, but as Gove said it "was telling" how quickly he stepped down.

Fair enough, we can agree to disagree claig, I do admire your unfailing loyalty.

Farage is easily one of our most gifted politicians or our biggest laughing stock, depending on which way you look at it. But each to their own.

Yes you are right, but Farage is not a "career politician", he only had one objective and that has been met

I'll change that - a decent human being who has led this country to where we are should have the guts to stay involved rather than wash his hands of it.

"Does anyone else want to just say 'time out' at the moment?"

Probably quite a lot of them.

But I suspect what lies behind this may well be something a simple as his health (chronic pain is no joke)

Yet another coward, sending the country into a frenzy then running off when it's time to clear up the mess!

'A gifted politician would do something positive and not quit once he's achieved his ambition.'

Yes you are right, but Farage is not a "career politician", he only had one objective and that has been met.

But that's not what the pp said, she said a 'gifted politician' (as you described him) would not quit. So you agree with her.

The entire EU project has been stopped short, it could now possibly collapse as Farage says he wants to help the "other independence movements across Europe".

So the project to which you believe Farage has dedicated his career, and is his sole purpose, is teetering on collapse..... so he abandons it to pursue other independence movements across Europe? What happened to caring about the UK? The UK isn't going quite how he wanted it so now he doesn't care? What?

Perhaps you believe that Farage believes in 'independence' from whoever, regardless of who that country is.

In which case, perhaps he should go and join the SNP?

Yet another coward, sending the country into a frenzy then running off when it's time to clear up the mess

And letting the women come in and clean it up or or [typical]

Murdoch has global objectives and he has to decide which "career politician" can advance his interests and beliefs and agendas.

Is that why Murdoch was hanging off the back of Trump's golf trolley the other day?

I was hoping for some kind of hideous bunker accident to kill two birds with one stone.

'a decent human being who has led this country to where we are should have the guts to stay involved rather than wash his hands of it.'

But the Establishment won't let him be involved. They hate him because he beat them. They call him "racist", rent-a-mobs are set on him. He is not allowed a role by the "political class" who all unite against him, the "career politicians", just as the Labour ones unite against Corbyn.

They will never allow Farage a role, the EU bugwigs, bureaucrats and bankers don't like him because he ended all their schemes and dreams.

As he said "it is difficult to let go" of something you have worked for for more than 20 years, but he has to let go because the Establishment will never allow Farage a fair go because he beat them. So he hopes the party will be lead by some good rather than an Establishment stooge. But the stooges will probably win just as they are trying to win against Corbyn.

'Is that why Murdoch was hanging off the back of Trump's golf trolley the other day?'

Absolutely. Murdoch was lukewarm to Trump and was weighing his options to oppose him, but Trump won and Trump calls the shots and Murdoch will have to go along.

Hasn't be already resigned twice? I expect he'll be back in a few days. I doubt a self regarding attention seeker like Farage can keep quiet for long.

But the Establishment won't let him be involved

Them. Of course. The all powerful them.

You are making excuses for him.

unfortunately someone can be a joke (no plan for making things actually work) and incredibly destructive at the same time.

If the tories have any sense (which many of them do, even if only of self-preservation in some cases) they won't touch him with a double-length bargepole.

'In which case, perhaps he should go and join the SNP?'

No, Farage is English, he is for the United Kingdom, but he wants all other European peoples to be free of undemocratic rule of a superstate because he understands where it will lead and how dangerous it will be for liberty.

Wonder if it's possible he's been offered a place on the Brexit committee, but only if he was non-UKIP? Don't see how that makes him any less toxic, but still...

Am baffled by Boris 'fearing a smear campaign' - in fact I'm actually slightly scared there could be worse stuff out there than what we already know.

What role could farage possibly have in the process of brexit now? The coming months and years are going to require serious thought, diplomacy and yes, compromise.

People in the EU certainly are still laughing at him, though not at what he's done.

For all your tall about The Establishment, claig, without them, we'd be at the mercy of one extreme group on power after another. I don't fancy a future of that, and can't see it being good for ordinary people.