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March? What march?

751 replies

Thefuturecouldbebright · 02/07/2016 14:04

Can anyone else find much news coverage of this 'democratic march against democracy'? Twitter is full of info, but tune into the news channels and you would be forgiven for thinking it wasnt happening. Kind of has the ring of 'nobody cares' really doesnt it?

A number of marchers posting on twitter seem to think they are geographically being removed from Europe, although I guess you could forgive them given the odd name given to the march itself 'March for europe'

Why is it not 'March for E.U'? Isnt that what they are really there for? Anyone else as confused as I am?

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Thefuturecouldbebright · 02/07/2016 20:03

But did you protest against the house of lords today? No, so lets deal with one Constitutional problem at a time, happy to have a debate on the house of lords another day.

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SugarPlumTree · 02/07/2016 20:03

Lovely to hear from those who went today and I look forward to seeing the banners from next week's March Smile

Hopefully it will make some of our European neighbours feel better to see this peaceful outpouring of emotion from some in the UK. DD got a right mouthful from a Dutch friend after the result which saddened her greatly.

smallfox1980 · 02/07/2016 20:03

Oh that old "undemocratic union" stuff, you know the one that wouldn't pass a vote if it was only a 4% majority

LondonKiwiMummy · 02/07/2016 20:04

Ugh. Please go watch the University of Liverpool EU lecturer as some homework and then come back to tell me the EU is undemocratic. You might be no fan of Farage, but you have assimilated his talking points very well.

Thefuturecouldbebright · 02/07/2016 20:04

Oh ffs... Its like banging my head against a rubber wall.

😂😂😂

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NotYoda · 02/07/2016 20:05

I was on the March. It was great.

Really really good-humoured and very large.

SugarPlumTree · 02/07/2016 20:07

Good to hear it NotYoda as there were people suggesting on MN yesterday it would be irresponsible to take young children to such a potentially dangerous anarchist March . What was your favourite banner ?

BeenThereDoneThatForgotten · 02/07/2016 20:08

The issue is that the Leavers LIED outright. BIg, fat lies. And then took them back in the horror of the day after. They admitted that they lied. And BoJo went running for the hills, and Farage insulted all the MEPS and made the UK look like a joke. 50% 0f the country is not going to take that lying down. That is democracy in action, not just sour grapes.

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 02/07/2016 20:08

Oh, OP, and you might want to research just how democratic/undemocratic the EU actually is too. I recommend Prof Michael Dougan of the University of Liverpool, too. It's really not as bad as you think. You've been listening to too much propaganda.

Redactio · 02/07/2016 20:10

Beenetc>
What lies were they?
I'll give you Farage behaving like a twat.

Thefuturecouldbebright · 02/07/2016 20:11

Because propaganda is only ever one sided of course.

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BeenThereDoneThatForgotten · 02/07/2016 20:11

The 350 million to the NHS and the promise that we can control immigration. Big fat lies that even THEY agree are lies.

ARumWithAView · 02/07/2016 20:12

Ok, you've now completely lost it.

You haven't apologised. You've minimized: jeez, all I did was post a picture, calm down, take your tinfoil hat off. You've insulted me: I'm a twit, I've tried to justify the message on the placard you posted (at no point did I even come CLOSE to this, or even discuss the message).

And you're still flinging wild accusations around. I'm disseminating far-right behaviour? Because I linked, with clear warning and obvious disgust, to a far-right website that featured the same photo you used to smear protestors?

Why didn't you check the image source?
Why was it more important to broadcast it to thousands of readers on MN, than to take the most basic, decent measure of verifying it was from today's march?

You say you never usually do this you always do your research, of course: you're not dim, or lazy, or mendacious so what was it about today's photo that broke your usually rigorous standards?

Since you've already insulted me, I don't see why I shouldn't say what seems the obvious answer: you probably don't check your sources that often. You see something that fits your agenda, and you repost it, retweet, put it up on MN. Millions of people do it. Maybe you're not an outright liar, but you don't have any particular respect for the truth, either. Because, hey, it's just a little photo, one dodgy figure, a rumour described as fact. No biggie. En masse, it might just create a toxic sludge of misinformation, about an emotive and divisive subject, during a referendum. But your part, personally? Just a bit of banter.

And you still can't see why this is a problem.

NotYoda · 02/07/2016 20:12

SugarPlum

There were load of children, babies in prams
There were no police until the entrance to Downing Street, and then again at Parliament Square. Completely peaceful.

I rather liked Fromage Not Farage, and the baguette waving was just silly Pythonesque nonsense

I wanted to do something instead of feeling shocked and angry at how the British people have been left out to dry by self-serving politicians

Thefuturecouldbebright · 02/07/2016 20:12

Sorry, by its nature it is... Should have said comes from one side, see... Even I can accept my own ironic errors...

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Joysmum · 02/07/2016 20:13

AC Grayling articulates it better than I ever could, in his letter to all 650 MPs

Yes, but would he have made the same objections of the democracy involved if the outcome was for remain.

Add into this this article from the time of the Lisbon Treaty, which we didn't even get a vote for, and somehow the claims made are laughable.

NotYoda · 02/07/2016 20:14

We got waves from people in Park Lane hotels, a group of chefs at The Hilton, and lots of supportive beeping from Coach drivers and open-top tour bus tour drivers

SugarPlumTree · 02/07/2016 20:14

Thanks NotYoda, that has made me smile

Thefuturecouldbebright · 02/07/2016 20:15

Thank you Rum, for once again patronising me as if I am a mere uneducated peasant who is beneath your intellectual contempt. If only I had been light hearted and accepted your point (oh.. Hang on) , especially as you were so warm and fuzzy with me and all.

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ARumWithAView · 02/07/2016 20:17

You've been pretty light-hearted so far. That's the issue.

BeenThereDoneThatForgotten · 02/07/2016 20:18

Could you not just admit you were wrong and we can all move on?

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 02/07/2016 20:18

Fromage not Farage is excellent. Grin

And rather a baguette than extreme right-wingers on your side, huh?

Thefuturecouldbebright · 02/07/2016 20:22

I liked the baguettes, they were funny? I laughed, what part of that is hard to get? 😉

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Thefuturecouldbebright · 02/07/2016 20:22

I did admit I was wrong to post an unchecked picture. Several times.

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NotYoda · 02/07/2016 20:27

You could report that picture, OP, or I'll do it for you if you prefer.