Genuine q, what does the UK gain from this?

[dragonsarebest]

I voted Remain, but we lost and I want to be optimistic, so I'd genuinely like to know what benefits we can look forward to following Brexit. I'm really not interested in arguing, point-scoring or vague "taking control" statements, but I would like to understand what the positives will/could be for my family and me once the UK is officially out? Thanks.

I get it, figment. It's an incredibly unsettling time.

Re bailouts - The UK may not be directly handing over cash for bailouts, but within the EU it was economically shackled to the failing Eurozone that needed, and continues to need, such bailouts. Not a particularly healthy position for any country.

The comment about the EU stopping the "contagion" from spreading made me laugh - in other words, don't let the others see what the UK's got, they'll all want it!

Sorry but if you think your small town will get better funding now that we are out of the EU you are sadly mistaken. I hope things don't get worse for you good luck.

Why haven't they been doing it up to now, and what possible incentive is Brexit for them to suddenly do so?
You get that its the same people, right? What makes you think that will morph into these epic brave leaders they have never been before?

Where have you been?

Go and switch a news channel on.

Labour party in turmoil because of the message from the electorate.

Conservative party in turmoil because of the message from the electorate.

You think anybody at Westminster is under the impression that they can continue as they were?

That doesn't answer my question.

Apparently all the politicians are suddenly going to be eager leaders, and champions of the disaffected and downtrodden, because no more EU.
But why would that make them suddenly be better leaders, better politicians? It makes no sense at all to suggest that.

Thanks for answering that Dacre, I frankly couldn't be arsed!

I just wonder if people are posting from bunkers.

User, have you turned on the TV?
Seriously.

The status quo has had a rocket under it.

Both main parties look as though real change could be effected, if they embrace the opportunity.

This is the driver for change.

This is as a direct result of the Brexit vote.

Yes, but what makes you think it will be any BETTER, when its more just as likely to be WORSE?

What would have changed in this country if Remain had won?

............Nothing.
Precisely nothing.

All of this is due to the outcome of the referendum.

Change isn't automatically good.

Yes it answers your question user.

Politics 101: The politicians (are meant to) represent the people.

That's their JOB.

If a large slice of the country are profoundly pissed off, MPs have to listen. Then act. When they don't listen, it gets messy. It's really not complicated.

In order to make it better, they're going to need to hike taxes to invest in poverty striken areas.

No one is going to do that because no one would vote for it.

Dacre, answer this then, with politics 101.

If the politicians haven't up til now been doing their job, what motivation do they have to start doing so now?

All you have is the ILLUSION of control, not the actual fact of it. Delusions of democracy.

The status quo has had a rocket under it.

Don't confuse panic and "what the fuck are we going to do now?" and "my political career is toast one way or another because of this fucking referendum" reactions from politicians with "oh dear the people are revolting, I must go and tend to them immediately. I must listen to their grievances and solve their problems".

If a large slice of the country are profoundly pissed off, MPs have to listen. Then act. When they don't listen, it gets messy. It's really not complicated

A large slice of the country are very pissed off at the Leave result. Are the MP's going to listen to them, and act?

I sense that there are some Marxists posting on this thread - revolutionary change eh? It rarely ends well. Get your history books out.

I did listen before the vote to several prominent 'socialist' pro brexit voices (there were very few, but there were some).

I am sorry, but the idea that overthrowing the establishment is going to result in positive change under conditions of economic stress is basket-case laughable. And if you do not regard yourself as a revolutionary Marxist and instead are just a brexiter misled by the daily express and now clutching at straws, go and put your head under a shower, because that is how you are coming across.

Mother there are measures that could be taken that cost little.

Outlawing zero hours contracts would be a good start. The cost of that would fall mainly on big business, not the exchequer.

We've all been listening to this mantra of "flexible workforce, service economy" for so long that we don't realise what it means. It means people struggling to survive and feed their families on completely unpredictable hours at the NMW, with no job security so that Amazon and Tesco and Sports Direct can make ever fatter profits.

Action on ever spiralling house prices and rents, similarly.

basket-case laughable

And on that note, having now been alerted to the level I am bothering to converse with, I bid thee farewell.

If the politicians haven't up til now been doing their job, what motivation do they have to start doing so now?

What's the big news in Westminster this week user?

Answer the question!

You asserting they are all going to change and be better. "Brexit" doesn't answer WHY. Cameron resigning doesn't answer it. Corbyn no confidence doesn't answer it.

Do you not understand the question?

Outlawing zero hours contracts would be a good start. The cost of that would fall mainly on big business, not the exchequer

The Tories brought in zero hour contacts, against the feeling of the EU. Why would they outlaw them now?

I sense that there are some Marxists posting on this thread - revolutionary change eh? It rarely ends well. Get your history books out.

It's not Marxist to suggest that people should be given a fighting chance to earn a survivable wage, pay their own rent and have some sense of security. It's just basic decency.

Dacre - indeed it is not, but it is Marxist to believe that overthrowing the established order will result in improvements for working people.

You asserting they are all going to change and be better. "Brexit" doesn't answer WHY. Cameron resigning doesn't answer it. Corbyn no confidence doesn't answer it.

Do you not understand the question?

No I'm not. I haven't ONCE asserted what politicians WILL do.

But if understanding what has happened and why isn't part of the process that the two parties are now embarking on, then both are incompetent.