To suggest Londoners stay in London

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You voted differently to where I live - by a huge margin. In your newspapers that you write (in London) you have said over the years how much you contribute to our local economy through your second homes and buy to let investments. But you refuse to live here permanently. I don't have to ask you why - you already know.

The last fishing boat in my town only left 3 weeks ago - hopefully they can come back and when they do, we will be enjoying the 'catch of the day', not you, so you can go back to London and wax lyrical or make some money describing it.

They probably would quite like a fish. Especially a special London one.

Special London fish??? I think we should be told more about this.

How can you tell they are London fish? Was it the cocky way they wiggled their fins? Their openness to shoals from warmer currents? Their tendency to cram together in REALLY small spaces in the name of transport? Their gallows humour? What?

Is my second home better than the mouldy,damp,one bedroom flat i live in now? I sure hope it is.
I only went on holiday to dorset once,because i have friends there otherwise i couldn't afford it. And i'm actually doing so much better than many living in London,things are bad everywhere.

P.s. I can't stand fish so you can bloody keep it.

I'm craving a fish cake from Seashells on Lisson Grove.

Cornwall get the most EU grants, and has voted Leave. I think Wales also did the same. Presumably they both will be expecting tax-payers in the rest of the country, including London, to make up the difference. As least NI knew which side it bread is buttered, but sadly their views didn't count.

Your cat gave you cream and my cat can't have fish and.... Whaaaaat?

stop I'm a Londoner now I guess (lived here 10 years) but I'm from a very poor Northern town that has had its industry stripped away, high unemployment, etc, etc. I do get how things are in different areas (I have no family other than pre-school DD here, they're all in the previously mentioned town or very close to it). Yes, we have many benefits living in London (not second home, champagne for breakfast, money rolling in with in no work type of benefits ) but we benefit from being near so many things but we aren't the devil incarnate and we aren't all rich, greedy bankers funnily enough!

I totally had a point when I started typing, what it was? I don't know...

"Many thanks to all the posters that have responded - I'm pleased to see that MN is regrounding itself after this weekend. I've been here mostly as an SN children person, but the weekend here post-ref has been really fascinating and I have really got into it - ds being 14 now and I've got a chance to think again.

Yep - it was a quasi-post with me meaning every word, personally I'm hoping to paint canvasses (Canvassi?) now ds is older but happy to discuss the BSE non-event too. Sorry, bed time for me now."

Perhaps someone could translate that from the Cornish for me?

Op, at the very least, you could have googled "how many Londoners have second homes in Cornwall" and then seen it was a miniscule number and then had a word with yourself and told yourself not to post such garbage.

I live in London and I am a Londoner. I have said it so many times on Mumsnet that I am even boring myself to now: in the UK, the people who suffer most from house price inflation due to second or more home ownership are Londoners!

Our DD lives and works in London. It's bloody hard work with astronomical house prices, but she bloody loves the place and why not as a young person enjoy a fabulous vibrant city with diversity and multi cultural is at its best. I'm furious at the exit voters and am yet to hear anything other than a very lame " everything will be fine". How?
I've just been in conversation with 75 year old relative who voted out. I have to remain civil but reality is they just talked over me incessantly about those of us who voted remain .....being to stupid to understand how amazing the independence will be. I'm yet again aghast at the arrogance.

I am born and bred - and I would never want to leave London - it's my home but I k ow what side my bread is buttered . I feel actually ashamed as on the (rare ) occasions I leave London I realise quite how glitzy it is here - even for normal folk . Not proud but I have been very scathing about it . "Ooh nowhere sells focaccia - or arborio rice ' etc

I just feel like that attitude has royally bitten me on the arse .

I can't articulate it very well (also been on the referendum wine) but I feel sad , ashamed and very clear that this London and city centric culture is not optimal

The bitter irony is that expansion projects such as HS2 and Manchester airport expansion that would have helped alleviate this will be panned

Where is my Second Home? I demand my Second Home! And don't fob me off with a camper van...

I live in a city that voted with London but is not London. I have friends who live in other places that are not London but voted remain. They are all distraught that we are leaving. Funnily enough, the large cities will probably be fine. We have a variety of industries and infrastructure to support our economy. It's the areas who voted leave like Sunderland, Cornwall and Wales who rely on EU subsidies who will be coming begging when the government take the money that used to be given to them in subsidies and use it to shore up the financial services sector in London.

The country's gone down the crapper.

My husbands away and the kids are ill, so just for me OP, in your bestest League of Gentleman voice...

"This is a local town, for..."

Gwan, finish it off, you know you're dying to.

I personally think that London needs to check itself a bit - no harm in that - is there ?

What does that even mean stopfuckingshoutingatme?

How can a city check itself?

London, just like everywhere else, is full of individual people. Some may need to 'check themselves' and some may not.

But other than that, your post has got me flummoxed as to what you mean?

I expect they look like this.

Some of the poorest areas in this country are in London.

Absolute joke of a goady post.

Do all of us Londoners have second home or only central Londoners?

Live here and work here and bloody love it. Even lucky enough to own another home here. Yerrrrr we're landlords. And I have TWO toilet brushes. And hand towels too. And I like my MIL.

And you can keep your rotten fish and soggy chips. Down 'ere we gots Michelin Star shizzle to eat whilst we quaff champers out of flutes made from unicorn horns

Worra in my 2 posts thereafter I have tried to articulate what I meant by aforementioned 'check itself '

I concede that wasn't very lucidly communicated !

Some of the poorest areas in this country are in London.

Absolute joke of a goady post.

Exactly and I live in one of those poverty stricken boroughs, with high unemployment, a complete lack of social housing and one of the highest child poverty rates in Britain.

My area of London also voted OUT.

But I'm not sure the OP wants facts getting in the way of her bizarre and goady posts...

Ok, I actually can't agree with you now stop London isn't "glitzy" at all if you live in the poorer (hate the term, but you get what i mean) areas and don't really leave that area. A lot of London is far from glitzy. Even the "glitzy" areas - have you been close to The Shard? Seen the homeless people all around you? The area "looking" nice doesn't mean it's without its problems.

London has the uber rich, it also has the uber poor, it also has everything in between. Londoners are not one homogenous mass any more than any other city.

OP you're not making any sense.

In general the results were

Cities - IN
Areas in that region but not in that city OUT

it's fairly stark reading . I don't really give a shit if OP was goady - but I am very very worried about this divide and how the fuck it gets addressed .