To be furious if this is true-the freedom of movement

[Rebecca2014]

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/evan-davis-newsnight-bbc-daniel-hannan-mep-eu-referendum-brexit_uk_576e2967e4b08d2c56393241

Seriously? majority of people who voted for leave wanted control of our borders, we brought into your story of an Australian style point system now it seems there's still going be freedom of labour movement which is basically the same thing expect they get less legal rights.

I didn't just vote leave for immigration but yes it was a big reason and if I known this, if remain had a better hammered this home I bet MANY leave voters would not have voted the way they did. If anything if this happens, many leave voters will join the remain voters in rage at the lies we been fed. (NHS, Immigration)

I have been a vocal leave supporter on here but now I am feeling pretty scared about what I have voted for. I blame the remain campaign for having an totally shit and ineffective campaign and Cameron should never have been the leader of the remain camp, as majority of people despise him and don't take any notice of what he says.

Well, I wouldn't worry too much. The other EU members have made it pretty clear that we are not leaving on good terms and thus won't be offered access to the EEA. Schauble actually said the EU has to respect the sovereignty of the British people (and their choice to royally tuck themselves).

I voted remain but think it's highly unlikely a post Brexit UK will sign an EU agreement like Norway with freedom of movement

I am certain they will sign it.

Sometimes democracy is overrated.

Your OP would make me laugh if it wasn't so fucking sad.

There were other brexit-bots on MN too...3 particularly prolific ones spring to mind. Stirring up division and whining about foreigners and "taking the country back".

If this echoes real life then of course there will be social unrest. What on earth did you expect?

For fucks sake Rebecca! Take responsiblity for yourself and your own fucking dimwitted stupidity and stop fucking moaning.

This is the quote of the week.

Are you fucking serious, OP? Of course, it's true. As has been said many times on here.

This has to be a reverse.

I... think it's highly unlikely a post Brexit UK will sign an EU agreement like Norway with freedom of movement. There will be too many angry people. I think we have to wait and see what happens but the government knows freedom of movement was a big reason behind many Brexit voters. Many countries in the north of the UK don't want freedom of movement that much either

The Leave campaign itself has started to backtrack on free movement. And, I can't find the piece myself at the moment, but KiwiMummy mentions above that the Daily Mail are today running an article on the rights of EU nationals under the freedom of labour rules.

Oh, come on. This information was widely available. Like all those loons high on immigration outrage, though, you preferred to shut out facts and common sense.

Incidentally, the second most googled question in the UK yesterday was "what is the EU?". Feeling so proud of our "democracy" (aka manipulation of the gullible) today.

For fucks sake Rebecca! Take responsiblity for yourself and your own fucking dimwitted stupidity and stop fucking moaning.

Yes. This.

Haven't read it all, don't need to in order to see this is a wind up.

Nobody is actually this thick.

Both sides told lies.

No, they didn't.

All Remain had to do was show people how it is - or was, until yesterday.

For some reason, Leavers chose to disbelieve us. Fucked if I know why.

Ummm, this was what every single poster who posted that they wanted to close the boarders was told.

Did you gloss over those posts?

Regretful leavers seems to be a real thing now, doesn't it?

Too fucking late now, cheers for that.

If it was important enough to you to be one of the reasons you voted Leave then you should have made damn sure you knew the correct facts.

Oh dear god. I have no words for this OP.

One of my DDs DP voted leave for the same reasons.

So they bought into the crap they were fed, and now they're cross that 'some big mean boys' lied to them.

You got what you wanted, we're leaving. I bloody hope you're satisfied.

Norway & Switzerland are in the Shengen area. They have less control over their boarders with regard to EU nationals than we do currently.

YABVU for reading the Huffington Post. It's a distorted rag.

Rather than relying on Buzzfeed, Huffington Post, etc., here's a much longer post from Danial Hannan from last October, where he explains the models of Norway and Switzerland:

www.conservativehome.com/thecolumnists/2015/10/daniel-hannan-mep-norways-relationship-with-the-eu-is-better-than-being-a-member-but-we-could-do-even-better-than-that.html

The point now is that we leave the EU. We are then free to make whatever rules we want on immigration, trade, and so on.

The main reason (49%) that Leave voters voted Leave, was to regain legislative autonomy. Immigration was second (33%). www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/06/lord-ashcroft-how-the-united-kingdom-voted-on-thursday-and-why.html

Immigration was a significant issue, but not the main one.

Perhaps we should have another referendum on freedom of movement. Perhaps we should have had one prior to the Eastern European expansion....

I haven't read the whole thread, but seriously: freedom of movement is a feature of the trade agreements those countries in the EEA have with the EU. Anyone who thought we could negotiate a trade agreement worth having without freedom of movement is seriously uninformed.

Sometimes I feel like starting Project Stupid. It would be a helpful and constructive response to surprised/disappointed Leavers, in the same way that Project Fear was a helpful and constructive response to the Remain campaign.

I can only forgive the Bregeters if they form an action group to personally sue the Leave Campaign for misinformation, & campaign to get MPs like Gove & Boris etc. unelected. Otherwise your Regret is not real.

I have been saying for weeks on MN & to anyone else I hoped not to actively annoy: Immigration will hardly change because of leaving EU.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3659137/So-does-mean-Brexit-affect-holiday-money-mortgages-passports-health-cover.html

"EU CITIZENS WORKING IN BRITAIN
In 2014 there were 790,000 people born in Poland who were resident in Britain (the official statistics don’t record whether they were Polish citizens) — the biggest group of Europeans living here.
After Brexit, they and other Europeans will no longer have an automatic right to work in Britain — unless we adopt a Norwegian-style position, outside the EU but inside the single market.
That does not mean, however, that a future British government will not issue work permits to Polish workers who are deemed to be an asset to the country."

And this little gem:

"Beyond two years, Britons may lose the automatic right to work or study elsewhere in the EU, and could require a work permit or visa. But it depends on what deal we negotiate. If, for example, like Norway we remain members of the single market, free movement will carry on just as before.

It is a misconception that we currently have the automatic right to live in another EU country. Even with Britain as a member of the EU, Britons can be sent packing after three months if we have no job or any other means of supporting ourselves."

First time the Mail's acknowledged that, eh. The UK could always kick out the scroungers under our existing rules! How did we only discover that today?

We're not getting a better deal than Norway or Switzerland. We've fucked up and have no negotiating power. We'll have to beg Germany to consider letting us into the EEA and we probably won't get it.

You reap what you sow!!!

You probably should be angry that you were lied to, but nowhere near as angry as those of us who didn't believe the lies but now have to suffer the consequences of your doing so.