Remainers have become undemocratic, desperate & embarrassing

[BritBrit]

With a petition being launched by remainers for a 2nd EU referendum & getting 1.5 million signatures already is this not a sign remainers have a total lack of respect for UK democracy and are getting desperate. Leave won on a high turnout, should remainers just accept the democratic will of British voters & work for the best Brexit possible?

How long can a newly wed couples stay along with minimum ten relatives or may be 27 relatives, does any one of you live in joint family, DEFINITELY NO !! you will be absolutely stressed out living with so many people at home with their choice, their likes and the newly wed marriage has only been stressed over years. Similar is the story of British with EU, Britain is stressed off with so many issues! Definitely couples need a break.

When we ourself can't live in a joint family with many indifferences, how can one expect all countries into this puddle !!

respect space,respect freedom, no need of being desperate . Lets hope for the good !! Only trading would be done in a different way, and bars will be set high which is in a way good unlike America,Canada,Switzerland,Norway. So most talented people would pop in. I am an Eu and i pay tax, I am alright with either Leave or Remain .
I support both

I am not arguing that the leave campaign was honest what I am saying is if you pull apart the leave campaign the remain campaign will be pulled apart too that is months of political wrangling

You would have to secure a good enough reason to call another referendum that is what needs to be worked on but just don't see it happening

I think the fact that a main campaign promise of the exit campaign as been retracted is fine.

You know the one on the side of the bus, the one they made posters of? The one that was emotive and would have influenced people, but was proved to be a load of shit.

Yeah that one, I'm fairly sure outright lying to the electorate and then retracting it when you get what you want should, nay, must count.

The petition is false and not worth thinking about. A second referendum is a really stupid idea and completely unnecessary. The Government doesn't have to act on it anyway. They could merely poll those who voted out and get an idea of how many feel they've been lied to.

It took very little to research and see through the lies so quite frankly it's tough if you were taken in. Same for those who voted out 'just to see what would happen' or because they honestly didn't believe it would happen. You don't get a fucking second chance. That's why a referendum on something so complex was a really stupid idea.

It's done now and the Tory's will pay the price for their sheer stupidity at underestimating the simmering resentment brewing in working class communities.

Anyone who feels angered by this vote should turn their fire towards the Government and in many respects the Labour Party. Another referendum isn't the answer, they'll probably not trigger article 50 anyway - they don't actually give a fuck what you want.

I would recommend if people want to change things they look at campaigning to change the fptp system. This would give a better voice to the disillusioned and those who feel disenfranchised. In many ways this was a protest vote just aimed in the wrong direction.

I suspect there was supposed to be a not in there fox...

It took very little to research and see through the lies so quite frankly it's tough if you were taken in.

That's not how the world works. We don't say lying is fine because everyone can see through lies. Lying can still be damaging and misleading, even if it happens to be obvious to you.

A lot of people (on either side) are not in a position to 'do the research'. They are not going to think 'hmmm, this could be a lie'. They are going to read the slogan and think, 'Yeah, I agree with that.' And that should be an acceptable, safe course of action in a civilised society that is supposed to have more moral stature than...well, supposed to have moral stature.

It's up to us as a society to see that exploitation doesn't happen. Here, exploitation occurred and calling people stupid for not realising they were lied to is little more than victim blaming.

yes goneto

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/eu_referendum_2016_/2671336-Why-I-Voted-to-Leave-the-EU?pg=1

Ok, that came out wrong and I agree with what your saying. I'm just frustrated.

The campaign should never have been fought on opinions or perceived truths it should have been on facts. Well, it just should never have happened.

You just know when it all goes to shit they'll say we can't complain because we voted for it. And for the nearly 50% of us who didn't that's doubly frustrating.

Yes I know what you are taking about

That would have to be proved to sway voters and what facts were given

I always saw that as opening up discussion in a disingenuous way this amount is given remain replies well no actually it's this amount leave replies so where is the other very large amount going and that is what the argument was about not the figures the confusion of the figures and where it ends up

Asprilla, I actually have no issue with anyone who voted out, I get it. I agree with much of your reasoning.

Much of my reason for wanting to remain was that I don't trust the Tory's. Under a labour government I may have voted out myself.

Do you feel pissed off that you have got what you wanted and it turns out there was no plan? Do you feel they can carry this off?