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I regret the way I voted.

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lulucappuccino · 24/06/2016 23:58

After a long day reading Facebook (didn't announce on there that I'd voted out), colleagues talking and family (who do know how I voted) complaining, I really wish I'd voted to remain.

I read a few bullet point articles and felt swayed by the amount of money were were paying to the EU. But I feel as though I'd partly not researched enough and also believed the hype.

Seeing the pound falling and friends worried for their jobs etc, I feel as though I've done something really bad. In fact, I'm sure I have.

Does anyone else regret the way they voted, whichever way that was?

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Lua · 26/06/2016 20:35

I would also know the answer to mort's question. (I asked above)

Emma4991 · 26/06/2016 20:35

I voted leave and took my time to research carefully for months. I don't regret my decision at all and I think if everyone took the time to actually look into it instead of believing everything they see on the news the results would have been a lot more in favour of leave.

Mayne123 · 26/06/2016 20:38

Not wanting to sound harsh it's too late to start regretting your decision perhaps with such a monumentous responsibility people should have been more careful in the first place!

BonerSibary · 26/06/2016 20:38

Are you a solicitor Rishaar, out of interest? It's just that 'work in the legal sector' covers a lot of roles. I know, I've been at the sort of firm you mention. Lots of You mention cases going to the ECHR, which isn't part of the EU, so you seem a bit confused on the issue. With that in mind, as you're using your work in the legal sector to try and add gravitas to your argument, I think it's important you clarify what your role is exactly.

And you definitely are moving the goalposts. There are sensible arguments to be made about the impact of EU law on British domestic law, but this absolutely doesn't mean we are powerless to change EU law. And even if you think we don't have enough influence, which is one of the legitimate arguments against the EU and one I as a Remainer am concerned about, we'll have even less outside it. Yet still be influenced by it.

Cathaka15 · 26/06/2016 20:41

Hi. Don't feel bad about your vote. At the time you thought you were making the correct decision. The people on social media are being so awful the way they are responding to people who voted out. Like they are perfect. I voted out too. I know a lot of people are saying this will effect them terribly. But let's wait and give this new Independance a chance. Also people from all walks of life voted out. Millions have NOT regretted it. Just in case people play the race card. I'm as diverse in my background as you can get.

Insabbathstheatre · 26/06/2016 20:42

I voted to remain - so I don't regret my vote - I do regret the result as it seems I will loose my job, my home and I worry for my children's generation - I don't want to say I told you so until the day I die - but seems I have no choice! Thanks

Cordelia1234 · 26/06/2016 20:42

I'm sure they think it will be Whitehall and the government, as it will be....

Jayfee · 26/06/2016 20:42

Indy100.independent.co.uk. Someone sent me this link about what might happen now....very interesting if it could really happen!

sleeponeday · 26/06/2016 20:43

I wasn't wrong Borojo our laws ultimately can be overturned by the European courts, a whole host of human rights lawyers have made a killing on that gravy train.

The Human Rights Act and ECHR has nothing to do with the EU. It's Council Of Europe - we were a founding member, remain a member, and nobody has suggested leaving. You're completely wrong in thinking that human rights law has a thing to do with the EU. If you have a problem with people being able to protect their human rights - and incidentally, read how those rights protected a teenage rape victim abused by the police and then get back to me - then you're looking at the wrong organisation. You might as well try to return a Currys laptop to a branch of Macdonalds.

And discussing the size of bananas was an eu directive

No it wasn't. There was an agricultural directive that said perfect class fruit and veg needed to be just that, or they would be Class 2. It's silly, yes, but if you are seriously arguing that you think we should leave one of the most successful trading blocks because you think bananas should be all manner of shapes and not subjected to rules on curvature, then I'm afraid I think it is you that is being ridiculous. Talk about baby and bathwater - argue against petty regulation and change it from within, but to inflict all this because fruit and veg are classed into various levels of perfection prior to sale? Seriously?

I've never heard such sour grapes by a loosing side, get over it and move on.

Rubbish. It's called democracy - people have the right to campaign and argue and say what the hell they want when they disagree with a political outcome. Or why did all those opposed to EU membership not accept the democratically elected governments deciding to remain in over the years - why wasn't that whining and sour grapes?

The whole premise of the out campaign was to regain control of our laws. So it isn't the case that parliament has the final say as it does not.

Actually, yes it does. In law, Parliament is sovereign and can do what the hell it wants. The referendum was purely advisory - it didn't create law, it just advised the Parliament on what people wanted to happen. I highly doubt they will ignore it, but there is absolutely nothing you can do other than vote them out at the next election if they do.

Our nhs is on its last legs and can't cope with the immigration free fall coming into the UK. As are our schools and other institutions.

Firstly, they are on their last legs because of cuts. They weren't before austerity and we had free movement of people then, too. Secondly, much immigration has nothing to do with the EU, anyway. And finally, the Leave politicians are now freely admitting that they will have to agree to keep free movement of people from Europe if they want to continue to trade, so your vote has not reduced immigration one jot. You can watch Hannan admit to that here. They lied to you.

We should have a points system like Australia, no one is saying Australia is racist are they? We already do have a points system like Australia.

Australia is widely regarded as one of the most racist countries on earth. Google "Stolen Generation" and then read this. Amnesty International are fairly vehement on the subject. And as a dual Australian/British national, I can't say I think it's a model I want us to adopt here, no. People in the camps sew their lips together. They set fire to themselves. They are there for years, and they are claiming asylum. The government has banned whistleblowing and the media are denied access. And that is your idea of perfection?!

SukeyTakeItOffAgain · 26/06/2016 20:43

Millions have NOT regretted it

To be fair, it's only three days later Hmm

snowy508601 · 26/06/2016 20:44

OP- your friends posting on FB have no more knowledge of the situation than you had! It is just the 'remainers' bellyaching because they are frustrated they did not win and throwing all sorts of spurious arguments into the mix.There is no consensus on whether in or out is the right vote among the experts let alone the layman!

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sleeponeday · 26/06/2016 20:48

And even if you think we don't have enough influence, which is one of the legitimate arguments against the EU and one I as a Remainer am concerned about, we'll have even less outside it. Yet still be influenced by it

This. This, this, and this again.

SukeyTakeItOffAgain · 26/06/2016 20:49

There is no consensus on whether in or out is the right vote among the experts let alone the layman!

There kind of was though, wasn't there?

Cakefairy1978 · 26/06/2016 20:50

If the op feels so strongly, start a 'I voted to leave because I was lied to Petition. ' I wish more people would research such things before voting.
I voted remain and I feel sick, worried and bloody furious. I've signed a petition for a second referendum based on a small margin of leave. Coincidentally, farage said before that had he lost by 48-52 then he would ask for a second referendum. OK n the meantime, Im making plans to move to Scotland

GDarling · 26/06/2016 20:50

I have had many 'Leavers' say that they did it for a protest vote,
(a bit like the dangerous BNP vote a few years ago that no one listened to...)
WHO' S SORRY NOW?????

wherethefuckisthefuckingtuna · 26/06/2016 20:51

I'm going to be made redundant as a direct result of the leave voters.

You deserve to feel bad about deciding my future on a fucking whim.

Peregrina · 26/06/2016 20:51

If it's just the Remainers bellyaching, then why aren't Johnson and Gove out there now, raring to go, telling us exactly how they would like to see Brexit be implemented? I don't think that playing cricket matches, which is what Johnson did at the weekend, is the way to negotiate trade agreements myself.

Rishaar · 26/06/2016 20:52

No, I'm not a solicitor, I'm an authorised person under LSA07. Doesn't surprise me the old school "are you a solicitor" question though! Times move on Smile

If you feel I've "moved the goalposts", fine. I have many reasons for my vote, not just sovereignty issues. As for adding weight to my opinion, it's all pretty academic now isn't it??? Re: the court issue, I was saying that cases at OUR firm proceed to the ECHR. EU law can be used as authority in cases even at the county court level... As you well know! It doesn't have to proceed to the highest level for EU law to impact the outcome of a case!

As I said, people cast votes for different reasons. Back in the day, plenty of people called for us to join the single currency for the sake of the economy... Turned out to be a good idea that we didn't follow the experts advice. Only time will tell if brexit was a good idea, and three days is not it!

Daddymcdadface · 26/06/2016 20:52

Well everyone wishing to remain in the European Union will be welcomed here in the Peoples Republic of Edinburgh after the next referendum on Scottish independence

SherbrookeFosterer · 26/06/2016 20:53

People who make light of others' concerns of this awful result should be more circumspect.

The UK has voted to become a lone wolf state.

I am sure in less than five years down the line we will end up going cap in hand begging the EU to let us return.

And the terms will not be favourable to us!

barbarap450 · 26/06/2016 20:54

yep, you made a mistake. you could try to make amends there are 2 petitions, one to call for a second referendum because the difference was so small (actually prepared pre referendum by a leaver who is now cross the remainers are using it with the same argument) and the second one is for the final choice to be made by a vote in parliament since a referendum has no legal binding. the links are petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215 and you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/parliamentary-debate-on-decision-to-ratify-article-50?time=1466954292

Goodluck

Mynamesnitrainman · 26/06/2016 20:55

Yes there was.

Oakster1 · 26/06/2016 20:56

It sounds as though there are a couple of things to learn from this. One is to become more politically engaged and involved generally. The second is to see what, if anything, can now be done about this, if this is how you feel. I myself voted remain and am gutted about the result. I respect that people have made their choices and everyone voted with what they thought was for the best for the country. Some researched this thoroughly and still came to different decisions about the right way forward, as is their democratic right. Others decided on the basis of the campaign information, some of which is now being shown to be incorrect, or without understanding the full complexities of what leaving or staying in the EU will mean. If we are to leave, we will need to try and make it work. However there are now some grassroots movements about whether there is any possibility that we will be able to remain in the EU even after this result. If you really do feel this way, please get involved in these, write to your MP, sign this petition for a second referendum and ask others to sign it too. petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215 . Nigel Farage is on record as saying that in the case of a 52-48 split in the vote in favour of remain, that he would be calling for a second referendum ( mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-wants-second-referendum-7985017 ), so don't feel that this is unfair or a tactic that the leave side wouldn't have used themselves. There are also petitions being started to call for a general election and for a prime minister who is elected by the people to take us into the negotiations with the EU. Get politically active and encourage others to as well. Myself, I have decided to campaign as much as I can against leaving Europe, until irreversible changes have happened. If we do leave I will do everything I can to support our country following this.

Smlins · 26/06/2016 20:58

Babybythesea I find it terrifying that
more people aren't discussing the implications for the environment. All of these concerns are going to seem petty when the full effects of global warming hit and most of the planet south of Paris is uninhabitable.

Eighty percent of our environmental legislation comes from the EU and will be the only way to enforce continent wide legislation to keep temperatures beneath 2 degrees because national governments won't want to do it under their own steam.

Given this current givernment's attitude to 'green crap' and endorsement of fracking, we are going to lose those protections. So to those of you saying, it will be better in 10-20 years and for those of you who did an 'emotional' nihilistic vote thinking the EU has not done anything for you or your family over the past 43 years and things can't worse, you are fucking dreaming.

Thanks for being so selfish, I can hardly bear to look at my DC now.