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To not be able to speak to my near neighbours who voted leave?

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TooMuchCoffeeMakesMeZoom · 24/06/2016 23:43

My children's future has been put at stake. Our economy risks ruin. Our relatively -well-off neighbours in a place with nearly full employment and very low recent immigration (local care companies and NHS are desperate for staff) have voted leave. They are only around fifty.

I'm gobsmacked.

The irony is that the small business they are in is affected by the growth of China as an economic powerhouse. So why on earth do they feel that leaving the EU gives them more power? It gives them less.

I am so angry and feel so let down by my country. These people, and people like them ahem destroyed my hopes for a continued peace in Europe.

How on earth am I expected to talk to them on an equal footing, knowing what they have done through their own greed?

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Drbint · 25/06/2016 16:43

But on here I am honest. It's not "mud slinging" it is my opinion.

My opinion is that your take on 'educated professionals' is hilariously up itself and stupid. 'Educated professionals' could just mean a bunch of office drones with degrees - nobody gives a shit.

pineappleshortbread · 25/06/2016 16:46

I voted leave and my husband remain should he divorce me now?

Your being ridiculous the way someone choses to vote doesnt change who they are.
I voted leave because I dont like the eu having control when we cant elect the leaders. I also like change and think change might do this country good. Im educated and not racists as immigration didnt even cross my mind. Im under no illusion that immigration will not drastically change and never for a second believed a money for the NHS bull as it isnt their money to promise.

Its time we stop hating each other and work to create something better and something new. There is not point worrying when we dont know what will happen. It could be the best thing we've done or the worst we dont know.

problembottom · 25/06/2016 16:59

I think that's silly OP. My parents voted leave. They had really thought about it and their reasons weren't anything to do with immigration. My other siblings, particularly my DSis who lives in an EU country, were very shocked and aren't speaking to them. They think anyone who voted leave is racist!

I'm bitterly disappointed at the result but I wouldn't stop speaking to anyone over it. We will get through this.

rainbowstardrops · 25/06/2016 17:16

People need to grow the fuck up.
You all woke up this morning and you're all still breathing.
Be thankful for that. The world is still turning - nobody died.

OhNoNotMyBaby · 25/06/2016 17:21

OP, you are the small-minded person here - not your neighbours.
Just because someone disagrees with you it doesn't make them wrong. Nor does it make them racist, stupid, ill-educated or anything else.

Grow up, learn some tolerance and civility.

exLtEveDallas · 25/06/2016 17:28

So, what if the person you are disagreeing with is racist? Is it ok to not want to speak to them then?

I mean, my own DH voted leave, but I'm still talking to him - his concern was the threat of a Euro Army (he is regretting his decision today tho). But the people at my work DID base their leave vote on immigration and the belief that leaving the EU would stop "immigrants and refugees coming here and getting benefits" (their words). I'm ok to not want to make friends with them, right?

EttaJ · 25/06/2016 17:29

Rainbow and MyBaby common sense indeed. I agree with you both

Remainers are starting to piss me off more and more by the minute with their spite, aggression and petty bitterness. Grown women ( not heard any men) crying and wailing like someone died.

It was put to a vote and Leave won so just grow up and deal with it.

LittleLionMansMummy · 25/06/2016 17:42

Our Portuguese neighbour voted Brexit, like a turkey voting for Christmas. Tbh I'm not as angry at her as I would be with friends who I thought shared similar values. Although it's nice to get on with neighbours, it's really just for passing the time of day with and I think my neighbour is stupid but otherwise can't be arsed. I have Facebook acquaintances who I've taken the opportunity to clear out, not because they voted Brexit but because they did so blindly on the 'taking our country back from those pesky foreigners' ticket and sharing Britain First posts. I don't agree with passive acceptance of racism and before anyone says 'but not all Brexiters are racist' I know that, but these definitely are. My good friends and family were all Remain, so no change there!

cappy123 · 25/06/2016 17:45

Interesting that people are shocked at learning their neighbours or family have voted differently as though they've just realised that they were free to exercise choice. We have a worrying self centred epidemic of yes I support your right to freedom, but as long as it doesn't hurt my sensibilities. I was taught to try to respect and understand people's positions so much, that you can advocate their case for them better than they can for themselves. That doesn't weaken your own position, it strengthens it and makes true diversity possible.

mrsglowglow · 25/06/2016 17:48

Kerala - you sound completely deranged. Listen to yourself dismissing anyone who voted leave as thick and you really do believe this? For all your education it's not given you much common sense sadly. The arrogance I keep hearing from so many of the remainers is unbelievable.

Alconleigh · 25/06/2016 17:49

I get it OP. I'm so angry at my father I don't want to speak to him. I don't know anyone else who voted leave, but I'd struggle to be civil if I did.

FarAwayHills · 25/06/2016 17:49

I think feelings are naturally running high as the result really was a shock to everyone, even those on the leave side. People just need time to adjust, they need some reassurance and they need to know those in charge have a plan sooner rather than later.

WaspsandBeesSting · 25/06/2016 17:49

All this hysteria is ridiculous

Everyone had a vote. They chose to cast it one way for legitimate reasons for them. You chose differently.

It is how democracy. Last time I checked we don't live in a dictorship.

My DSS voted differently to me and my DH. Perfectly valid reasons.

Should I kick him out?

Alconleigh · 25/06/2016 17:50

And all the chill out its done bye responses just demonstrate that the leavers still don't get it. So no, I don't respect them.

OrangesandLemonsNow · 25/06/2016 17:52

I am entitled to think those that voted leave are thick. That is my belief. I am too polite to say it to your face but I will be thinking it.

Think what you like. Doesn't make you right by a long shot.

Littlemisslovesspiders · 25/06/2016 17:54

Fortunately the only leave person I know who voted leave

Clue is that you openly know. Unless you followed them to the booth and watched where they put the x you have no idea.

truevoice · 25/06/2016 17:58

my children's future has been put at stake. I voted Leave, and funnily enough, I believe the same. Or did Remain think - once again - they had the only altruistid/honourable view? Its really tacky to use such a stupid argument. End of.

FarAwayHills · 25/06/2016 17:59

I agree Alcon people are scared and have every right to be. Those who voted leave and are saying 'I don't know what all the fuss is about', clearly don't understand the seriousness of what's at stake here.

But turning in each other, on family, friends and neighbours is going to make all of this a lot worse. What good will it do?

truevoice · 25/06/2016 18:00

p.s. hoping this isn't a troll Original Post. But I would say, if you can't "take" your neigbours choice of vote, probably best not to ask them. I voted Leave, I understand why people would vote Remain, and if they had "won" the vote, I would have accepted it. I wouldn't have needed to carry "the hate" onwards ....

cappy123 · 25/06/2016 18:02

Our Portuguese neighbour voted Brexit, like a turkey voting for Christmas. You see, why would you say that? What assumptions are you making. Have you asked her reasons? Would you respect them, even if you disagreed?

I just don't get the shrinking back from difference of opinion. I'd be a shallower person if I only had friends I agreed with. And Leavers are accused if isolationism...

Lilmisskittykat · 25/06/2016 18:10

I'm sorry what's happened... Seemed a normal Saturday to me

Get a grip they voted you voted ... Maybe they don't want to face you for your vote.... Or maybe they are getting on with their Saturday ??

mrsglowglow · 25/06/2016 18:16

17 million people voted to leave and I'm sure did so in the hopes of a better future in the long term. For many millions of people in the UK the EU has had very little positive impact and may feel they have nothing to lose by trying a new way. Since entering the EU so much of our manufacturing industry has been wiped out. Public services have declined. Affordable housing reduced. I'm not saying its the fault of the EU but why if it's the success so many are crying over did it not make our country better for Everyone? A lot of people have done well and the divide since the result can be seen more clearly than ever before.

LittleLionMansMummy · 25/06/2016 18:17

You see, why would you say that? Well, because it's true - she voted because of immigration Hmm and is only now realising how it might impact her and her family. Basically she's a Bregetter. I'm fine with difference. I work with a really good guy who was knowledgeable and went out of his way to find information. He also studied international politics at uni. He voted Out. Fine. My post clearly states that I have a problem with racism and the rampant nationalism/ Britain First posts this whole sorry scenario has given rise to. Damn right I'm fucking angry about that.

feellikeanalien · 25/06/2016 18:37

I voted out. Not for any reason to do with immigration but because I lived in another European country for 18 years and saw how it was brought to its knees by the EU.
I am also sick of being branded an uneducated racist because I voted out. I have a degree and am not racist!
The decision has been made, can we not now unite and move forward in a positive way.
I didn't vote for the Tories in the last election but had to accept the result. I think you'll find it's called democracy!

truevoice · 25/06/2016 18:40

I am also sick of being branded an uneducated racist because I voted out

know how you feel, miss alien, if thats any help, really mean that. it was awful that part heyho ...