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AIBU to be angry at surprised Brexit voters?

355 replies

pestov · 24/06/2016 10:21

Victoria Derbyshire has been chatting to voters all morning, and more than one admitted voting to leave, but being shocked and worried about the resulting political turmoil. What did they think was going to happen!? I just can't understand their logic.

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merrymouse · 25/06/2016 10:51

re: the Daniel Hannan clip, does Evan Davis's head actually hit the desk?

TwatbadgingCuntfuckery · 25/06/2016 10:54

merry us friends believe so. The tweets and articles they've shared make it seem a very real possibility but I'm still hopeful they have more sense!

TwatbadgingCuntfuckery · 25/06/2016 10:55

Plus a world where trump, Boris and Putin are 'pals' isn't a world I want to be in.

larrygrylls · 25/06/2016 11:09

Twat,

Your last post is libelling boris. Where has he ever suggested he is friends or respects Putin? Agreeing over one issue does not allies make.

PigletJohn · 25/06/2016 11:15

I know Farage wanted to have a repeat vote if the referendum didn't go his way. It looks now as if he is not alone.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions?state=open

LikeASoulWithoutAMind · 25/06/2016 11:19

Yep - there is no way Farage would have taken it lying down if the vote had gone the other way by a similar margin. I can hear the soundbites: Live to fight on another day. Bet he'd have used those exact words. Along with something about 48% of the vote showing the British people aren't happy with Europe etc.

abbieanders · 25/06/2016 11:19

Your last post is libelling boris. Where has he ever suggested he is friends or respects Putin? Agreeing over one issue does not allies make.

Well allies are necessary in this world and ye have voted to remove yourselves from the obvious allies - potential narrows.

TwatbadgingCuntfuckery · 25/06/2016 11:22

Hence why 'pals' was in inverted commas. Or did you miss that bit?

BonerSibary · 25/06/2016 11:33

However, London, Bristol, Liverpool and Scotland had the sense to know which side their bread was buttered on they've just been hobbled by the rest of the English and the Welsh.

You forgot Manchester, Leeds, York and Newcastle capricorn, most of the northern cities in fact! The City of Manchester actually recorded a higher 'remain' percentage than London. The only big city not to go for Remain was Birmingham, I believe. Maybe all of us cities where the wealth is and the jobs are could declare independence together and stay in.

larrygrylls · 25/06/2016 11:49

Twat,

Didn't miss it, no. If you want to libel, do it with courage. How do the inverted commas change the meaning? What were you actually meaning?

Dollius01 · 25/06/2016 12:14

God, Larry, you do talk a lot of crap. Suggesting that someone is friends with someone else does not equate to libel.

JedRambosteen · 25/06/2016 12:17

Wales wasn't uniformly for exit - most of the major areas of urban population, including Cardiff and the Newport area, voted in favour of remaining.

TwatbadgingCuntfuckery · 25/06/2016 12:21

ok larry I'll bite. Here is an English and Grammar lesson for you to read at will.

yes, the use of inverted commas changes the meaning.

www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/inverted-commas

AIBU to be angry at surprised Brexit voters?
SeaEagleFeather · 25/06/2016 12:40

when I said that the UK would be laughing stock ... it was in the context of if another referendum was held so fast that we could reverse our decision. Which actually, I think we should do, laughing stock or not. And giving 16 - 17 year olds the chance to vote in -this- situation.

Right now we're just seen as having shot ourselves in the foot by other countries, as far as I can see. With a few voices saying "the EU really does need reform. But we can't go easy on the Brits; they're the first major country to pull out and we can't make it easy for people to join/leave regularly"

Im sure that money will lead to some reasonable trade agreements in some areas. In other areas (loss of businesses, etc) it'll have a long term negative effect, I imagine. Occasionally major change can encourage new growth, but this change seems so fundamental I'm afraid that it will weaken the UK in the medium and long term as well as right now.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 25/06/2016 12:59

Greece did it twice.

SeaEagleFeather · 25/06/2016 13:01

And how much respect is Greece held in, for the mess they got themselves into?

UK's not as poor but the way this situation has been handled has not increased admiration

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe · 25/06/2016 13:05

Respect boat has sailed.

We have to try and get out of the mess the best we can and worry about respect later.

PigletJohn · 25/06/2016 14:53

Twatbadging

And here is another....

AIBU to be angry at surprised Brexit voters?
PigletJohn · 25/06/2016 14:57

sorry, I read a Thread about learning German and Plot the lost.

Beeziekn33ze · 25/06/2016 15:13

Are Boris and Dave thinking 'What have I done????' They should be.
Might they have scuppered the Tory party? That would be interesting, we live in interesting times.

And as for the Leavers who are whimpering 'I didn't mean it, I didn't think my vote counted' could someone remove their voting rights (if not more!) please?

ManonLescaut · 25/06/2016 18:43

Im sure that money will lead to some reasonable trade agreements in some areas. In other areas (loss of businesses, etc) it'll have a long term negative effect, I imagine

You can never negotiate the best terms in deals when you're in the weaker position as we now are. That's the reality of renegotiating all these trade deals.

Before we were secure and connected to the EU, now we are alone and desperate.

ManonLescaut · 25/06/2016 18:50

And how much respect is Greece held in, for the mess they got themselves into?

Well quite.

The Greeks voted no to the EU bailout.

The UK voted no to the EU...

How much respect will we be held in for our mess?

PigletJohn · 25/06/2016 19:49

I fear that our decision to destabilise European and world economies will not win many friends.

AnneTwacky · 25/06/2016 20:49

I voted remain but I am not angry at any other voter. Their vote is their business.

I have never been so angry though, at the government, who gambled with our nation to gain votes from UKIP and lost. The fact that neither Johnson, Gove or Cameron seem to have a plan other than wait a few months makes me question how much serious thought they gave to the referendum going the way it did.

I don't think Farage has a plan either and not sure I'd want to know it if he did.

poochiepants · 26/06/2016 10:39

Am not sure that DC can be wholly blamed for calling the referendum. At the time of the GE, Labour was, ironically, a stronger party than now & more understanding of the role of the EU in maintaining our stability. So there was a good indication of an alliance on this. Then they elected a weak leader who, even though he knew that supporting the government on this issue would likely be the best thing to do, it seems that he couldn't quite bring himself to hold hands. Hilary Benn is smart enough to know when you have to put personal political ideology to the back, and do what is best for the people. Corbyn followed the first rule of politics - screw the opposition. But in doing so, he contributed to the current situation.

I have never joined a political party in my life, and am not party loyal by any means, but the only person I think is calm enough, intelligent enough, and is not petty is Benn.....am considering joining Labour just so I have an early voice in choosing who I want to lead this country.....if the Tories had an obvious candidate I would join them too, but as of now there is no one I could honestly believe in....