AIBU to be angry at surprised Brexit voters?

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Victoria Derbyshire has been chatting to voters all morning, and more than one admitted voting to leave, but being shocked and worried about the resulting political turmoil. What did they think was going to happen!? I just can't understand their logic.

These are the people I totally dispise. The ones who voted "leave" as a "protest" without thinking it would actually happen. If you voted to leave and hoped to win - fine but if you did it fully expecting to lose, then you are a fool.

The "populus" in the UK did not bay for, or want a referendum. David Cameron fucked up. He gambled our future for his career. I think he really thought that Leave wouldn't happen.

Other politicians and wannabe politicians, too numerous to mention, who followed his lead. The "populus" voted on the options given... by politicians willing to bet our future on their careers.

This is why I didn't vote because I could not make up my mind and it would be unfair to vote on a 50/50 mindset however my remain friends have given me a bollocking for it

[Sad] Sunset.

How do you feel about today's result?

Sunset, are you happy with the result?

The information was all out there.

As for people who voted leave thinking it was a protest vote and would not actually happen, they must be pretty thick and should be ashamed of themselves. Yes, David Cameron fucked up by calling the referendum, but so too did dicks who voted leave when they wanted to remain. That really is just utter twattery and perhaps the reason why a second referendum might need to be considered. They have made us look like a tantruming child in Flouncers' Corner.

Yes, I'd imagine the far right in other countries are keen to get a referendum as soon as possible, because otherwise they won't be able to pull the 'Project Fear' shit that Leave did here.

'No, the economy will be fine, the elite are just lying to you!'
'But look what happened to the UK after they left?'
'Errrr.....'

Same here. I am saddened by a Leave vote and still don't really see how it will change what I perceive to be the main issues on the Leave side (immigration and undemocratic representation). However, the EU does have serious flaws and I respect the difference in opinion of Leave voters who did their research and voted for what they believe in, even if I don't agree.

The regretful Leave voters who voted in protest of the government and "never thought it would actually happen" - frankly they are idiots of the highest order, who I have absolutely no time or sympathy for. Also to the 30% who didn't even vote - why, just why wouldn't you want to have a say in something so huge for your country?? That I don't understand at all.

At the weekend we visited my mother (late 60s) DH was explaining the negatives to the Leave campaign for his industry & job. I also said I was voting remain for DH & other issues that related to our family.

Yesterday when I phoned my mum in shock at the results, she spent the whole time saying how happy she was that Leave had won & how she'd voted for that as she remembers being out of the EU & how much better it was! Everyone she knows voted Leave & they are all so happy

I'm feeling a bit pissed off at how gleeful she was especially after she'd heard about concerns from her own family. DH pointed out that my mother's area was a very high overall leave result so her 1 vote wouldn't have made an impact in the greater scheme.

But who doesn't consider their wider family first & then gloats? I thought we were a very close family I'm still shocked

fleebee If she is late 60's she would have been at most 27 when Britain joined the EU. I wonder if some older people are just being nostalgic. The first half of the 20th century was pretty much war, recovery from war and decline of empire. It's difficult to understand what people want to go back to.

Maybe they also have a nostalgic wish to return to pounds, shillings and pence?

One of my parents voted Leave and I feel odd about it. They are retired, with no mortgage and a more than comfortable public sector and state pension. In no way (that I can see) disenfranchised by EU regulations/governance or affected by immigration. And yet these were the reasons they trotted out for voting - I work in one area of the public sector and to hear there views on the effect of immigration on this service was disheartening as it it quite simply not my experience (non-EU migrants place far more strain IMHO). I feel they personally (not all Leave campaigners before I get flamed) have voted based on jingoistic misinformation, outdated, narrow minded opinion and secure in the knowledge that whatever the outcome, it wouldn't really affect them . I still love them dearly but it has been difficult to reconcile.

their views, sorry!

DH pointed out that my mother's area was a very high overall leave result so her 1 vote wouldn't have made an impact in the greater scheme.
He's wrong!

DH pointed out that my mother's area was a very high overall leave result so her 1 vote wouldn't have made an impact in the greater scheme.

Yes, he's wrong, and worryingly so because he's fundamentally misunderstood how a referendum works. This wasn't a vote which was conducted by consitituency, like a general election. This was the ultimate proportionally representative vote, where a vote to Remain in Lewisham was counted against a vote to Leave in Sunderland.

God, I wonder how many other people took this attitude.

my remain friends have given me a bollocking for it

Rightly so, I'm afraid. If you weren't sure, you should have voted Remain. We could still have left one day if we had needed to. There's no going back now.

That really is just utter twattery and perhaps the reason why a second referendum might need to be considered. They have made us look like a tantruming child in Flouncers' Corner.

I suppose in theory that if Cameron delays invoking Article 50 and there's enough call for a second referendum real quick and if the vote went Remain ... The UK could stay, if the Article hasn't been triggered.

We'd be a laughing stock though.

To be fair, short of tying up fleebee's mum and not allowing her to leave the house, I don't think there is much Fleebee's family could have done about her Leave vote. Whether or not Fleebee's DH had a bit of a foggy moment re: the structure of vote counting, I think they all voted.

a 2nd referendum seems like a cloud-dream tho

True, merry, but I wonder how many people took the attitude of a general election and thought 'there's no point in voting remain around here - my vote won't count.'

Neither campaign explicitly explained that every vote counted, everywhere.

I was at work yesterday and was astonished by the amount of people who voted leave but didn't think we'd really, actually leave.

Most of them voted leave because "David Cameron is a twat" they don't like the "poshos from Eton" or thought "Germany was too big for its boots". They were all totally shocked that 'sticking one' on Cameron has actually lead to a leave vote.

The company I work for has been quietly drawing up plans to close our office in the event of a leave vote so they're now all bricking it

We'd be a laughing stock though.

Too late - even Portuguese media has been reporting the twats who thought their vote wouldn't count, or that we wouldn't actually leave

The U.K. has already shown itself up - no wonder the EU are so keen to get rid pdq

It's so bloody embarassing!

Like the several hours yesterday morning when the only person who seemed to be speaking for Britain was Farage with his no bullets fired and Independence Day outrages.What the rest of the world must have thought of us I have no idea

Sadly, I have a bloody good idea.

yeah, me too.

No, not a laughing stock.

Nobody was laughing where I work yesterday. Nor my relatives.
Everyone is worried.
Because this has repercussions beyond the UK.