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AIBU to be angry at surprised Brexit voters?

355 replies

pestov · 24/06/2016 10:21

Victoria Derbyshire has been chatting to voters all morning, and more than one admitted voting to leave, but being shocked and worried about the resulting political turmoil. What did they think was going to happen!? I just can't understand their logic.

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LittleLionMansMummy · 25/06/2016 09:09

I wonder what proportion of people who deemed it so necessary to cast their vote about our future this time around don't actually exercise their democratic right during general elections. If they were pissed off at the state of the UK before, then they had numerous previous chances. This protest vote, if that is what it is, is fucking sickening.

Costacoffeeplease · 25/06/2016 09:11

Laughing stock = ridiculous, not hilarious - absolutely,

The UK has made themselves look utterly ridiculous

Capricorn76 · 25/06/2016 09:20

Places like Wales, Cornwall and Sunderland who rely heavily on EU investment made themselves look bloody ridiculous. Cornwall is already begging for funds to cover the loss of EU money but I guess they'll be ignored as they voted heavily for this.

However, London, Bristol, Liverpool and Scotland had the sense to know which side their bread was buttered on they've just been hobbled by the rest of the English and the Welsh.

I want independence for London.

LizKeen · 25/06/2016 09:23

An NI is just ignored repeatedly. Angry

Capricorn76 · 25/06/2016 09:25

What you'll see next is London sucking in even more people as the young from places like Sunderland and Wales which need the EU are forced to move to the region that is most likely to weather the storm. Talk about cutting your nose to spite your face.

derxa · 25/06/2016 09:35

I would LOVE to know if Boris thought leave would win when he signed up to be poster boy for it. I think he was expecting to lose and then become the focus of future protest votes... I think this is the case. He didn't like the boos either. He's going to have to get used to it.

Costacoffeeplease · 25/06/2016 09:48

And everything from the weather to the price of fish, for the next 5,10 years, will be his fault

Way to go Boris

green18 · 25/06/2016 09:50

The EU leaders knew several countries were unhappy with the way the Eu was expanding, they knew the UK had a referendum looming. Instead of turning their backs to reform, they could have held talks about keeping single market and other benefits but moving away from the ever closer union. Now they have a future without UK and very possibly other countries too. The future could mean the end of the EU altogether. all of this could have been avoided.

TurquoiseDress · 25/06/2016 09:56

Yes- depressing viewing on the TV last night, interviewing people who voted to leave.

Think this was up in Barnsley. One man saying he voted out so immigrants could not come in from Africa, amongst other places. The last time I check, "Africa" was not an EU member.

I accept that he was probably thinking more in terms of putting up borders/walls to stop the rest of the world getting in once we leave the EU, but honestly come on.

There were also some young people interviewed, saying that they had changed their mind, thinking their vote wouldn't count or that they would get to vote again. Seriously...?!

Frightening the level of sheet ignorance & stupidity.

I totally accept that we underwent a democratic process and the result went the way it did. Am just sat here still scratching my head at some voters' lack of knowledge, logic and sheer stupidity.

But I guess that's a democracy.

TurquoiseDress · 25/06/2016 09:58

The bit about Cornwall now apparently begging for its EU funding not to be cut...utterly hilarious!

merrymouse · 25/06/2016 10:03

Well, they were promised the funding by the Leave campaign. I'm sure Boris will be confirming it any day now...

green18 · 25/06/2016 10:06

Think this was up in Barnsley. One man saying he voted out so immigrants could not come in from Africa, amongst other places. The last time I check, "Africa" was not an EU member.

I voted leave and I did cringe at those people 'chosen' by the TV crews. Not representative of me or the people I know that voted leave. I am educated, come from immigrant roots and love Europe, just not the establishment that the EU was turning into.

Blueflowers2011 · 25/06/2016 10:07

I strongly agree - people are quite stupid for voting leave. The people I know who voted leave all either don't really know why they voted this or base it solely on 'immigrants'. There has always been immigration in the UK and they cannot see past this and long term effects on the economy - which is very worrying. So IMO only, this confirms to me this is quite a racist country. And yes I am British born and bred. What a disaster, no wonder nobody likes the Brits, so cold and obnoxious !

Lweji · 25/06/2016 10:10

I am educated, come from immigrant roots and love Europe, just not the establishment that the EU was turning into.

That's fine and it can only be respected. I hope you also take full responsibility for the turmoil that is inevitably following.

Squashybanana · 25/06/2016 10:15

Capricorn Manchester, Trafford and Stockport were for Remain as well.

I am truly horrified at this, but somewhat comforted by only personally knowing 1 leave voter. Everyone, in the café and pub I went to yesterday, everyone on the school run, aghast. Even my 75 year old Mum voted Remain.

green18 · 25/06/2016 10:17

That's fine and it can only be respected. I hope you also take full responsibility for the turmoil that is inevitably following.

I stand by my vote of course. There will be a period of uncertainty, partially caused by the PM that gave us the referendum, saying he believed UK could stand alone , then deserting the country when it didn't go his way. My vote was for the future, the long term.
I am quite shocked at the bitterness on this site. If i had woken to a remain win , i would have been disappointed but accepted the democratic process. I don't always get the PM I vote for either. I think we need to move forward.

BertrandRussell · 25/06/2016 10:24

I am still waiting for someone to give me one tangible benefit Brexit will give the average person. Interestingly, Mitch Benn is asking Julia Hartly-Brewer the same thing on Twitter at the moment with equal lack of success.

TwatbadgingCuntfuckery · 25/06/2016 10:28

US friends are panicking because trump is using this in his presidency campaigning.

They are worried we - the uk - will trigger another recession.

They are worried about trading, companies that need both the EU and UK.

My EU friends are worried about those jobs, their homes and potential abuse for being anything other than white and English.

My scientist friends know their funding will run out. One is a microbiologist. His job will go when that funding stops.

Friend owns shares in a family run building company - houses mostly - they rely on world immigration esp from the EU - to build housing for us to live in. The company share prices have dropped. They have lost a lot and are looking at future redundancies if it doesn't improve.

Many of the Cornish need the funding from the EU but here in the southwest we have been routinely ignored by govt. HS2!? Why when that money could improve rail links here? People only give a damn when it's tourist season :(

Anger and ignorance has led to stupidity. People will realise in the coming days what this means when the 'victory' wears off.

Hodooooooooor · 25/06/2016 10:29

They can't, because they don't know one. They didn't vote for tangible benefit, they voted for vague notions of patriotism and a total misunderstanding of what the EU is and what it does.

The second highest google query from the UK AFTER the vote was "what is the EU?". Says a lot, don't you think?

TwatbadgingCuntfuckery · 25/06/2016 10:32

A lot of us here in the southwest take in exchange students to top up our incomes. I'm worried how this is going to affect a very vital part of my income.

merrymouse · 25/06/2016 10:36

If a remain vote had narrowly won, Farage would have kept asking for a referendum and the leave side would have continued to campaign. The only way that either side would have gone away quietly would have been in the face of a resounding clear defeat.

The bitterness reflects the fact that the country is split. It has been clear for weeks that whoever won would do so on the basis of a very narrow margin.

At least with a general election you have some idea of the winning party's plans. At the moment we are in complete chaos - far worse than after any general election, and nobody has any idea what we are going to do next.

Of course people aren't just quietly shrugging.

TwatbadgingCuntfuckery · 25/06/2016 10:40

hodor indeed it does. I tried my hardest to educate my family about what the EU is. What it does and how we as citizens can disagree - much the same as UK govt petition the EU has a system.

This is a minor one - EU wanted to regulate industrial cadmium use. Yay! But this would have an effect on the arts and cadmium based paints. Petitioning the EU regulated cadmium but gave allowances for artists and creators because the benefit was higher - art being beneficial to society - and use of cadmium in paint much smaller.

our govt does get involved but our media has routinely ignored or labelled it as H&S gone mad and EU meddling.

I've lost count at the number of farcical, scaremongering articles over EU regulation.

Lots of our products and food is the safest it has ever been!

merrymouse · 25/06/2016 10:45

US friends are panicking because trump is using this in his presidency campaigning.

Can Trump win? Is there really a possibility that we will be out of Europe and forced to pal up with Trump?

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