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to think the Remainers aren't going to take this lying down and we won't leave

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SybilEngineer · 24/06/2016 10:02

A million plus more people voted leave than remain but still over 16 million voted in. And many of the people this will affect - the under 18s - didn't get a say.

The majority of our elected representatives want us to remain as does our capital city.

The EU wants us to remain and once the leaders have stopped throwing their toys around they will realise they need to reform the EU and make changes that will keep UK and all the other eurosceptic people in.

Today has been a body blow for us remainers but, we're shot of Cameron, so we can re-group and start the fight to remain in the EU but with changes that much of Europe wants.

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branofthemist · 24/06/2016 13:49

And saying 'yes it's a democracy but......' Is taking the piss out of democracy.

And as for the elderly voted for it and they will dead is ridiculous.

Are middle aged people with terminal cancer deemed not good enough to vote?

Or does this only go for the elderly?

SquidgeyMidgey · 24/06/2016 13:53

Even some brexiteers don't think we'll actually leave. Some woman was on bbc scotland saying that article 50 won't be engaged immediately, eu will reform, and then there'll be another vote and we'll all vote to stay in....
Sounds blinking marvellous to me. I remember the last recession vividly, I remember truly scratting the money together for the mortgage when DH's employer put him on half his wage then had cash flow problems. I wonder if the Brexiteers are going to help me out this time or if they will be too busy infighting that the wrong man lead them forward, it wasn't supposed to be this way, they were lied to... if all you have to worry about in life are forriners doing the jobs you didn't want anyway then you're, rather you were, doing alright. I still can't believe it's come to pass.

Believeitornot · 24/06/2016 13:55

I didn't say that groups of people shouldn't vote Hmm

However I am saying that given the monumental impact that this will have in decades to come, that those who voted for the most damaging option in the short/medium term (and maybe the long term) will not see the consequences. I will be asking my mother in law what she thinks the future holds for her grandchildren now that we are leaving the EU.

The result was so very close.

It was not a landslide.

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 24/06/2016 13:56

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Believeitornot · 24/06/2016 13:57

And given that this was apparently a protest vote for many, then I am further in easy.

People who vote should damn well have a good hard think about what they're voting for.

RosieSW · 24/06/2016 14:04

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mollie123 · 24/06/2016 14:08

colouring
I can't accept that such a Massive decision can be taken based on only 36% of the country voting to leave.
where did you get the 36% from ? are you referring to scotland only?

CoolforKittyCats · 24/06/2016 14:08

And given that this was apparently a protest vote for many, then I am further in easy.

People voted for strange reasons for remain too. It isn't one sided.

We are with we in a democracy or not. Or are we only in one if you get the result you want?

StillDrSethHazlittMD · 24/06/2016 14:08

It begins already:

"Sources at Morgan Stanley tell BBC it's already begun process of moving 2,000 London based investment banking staff to Dublin or Frankfurt"

CoolforKittyCats · 24/06/2016 14:08

*Are we in a democracy

neolara · 24/06/2016 14:09

I guess the issue is, if the economic and political fall out from the threat of leaving is huge, by October, many people may have changed their minds. My impression was that while many people did have well thought out reasons for leaving, there was also a fairly large number who were using it as a protest vote or were basing their views of inaccurate assumptions (e.g. we'll close the borders). Under these circumstances, a second referendum, or more likely, a general election which is fought basically on a single issue (agree Article 50 or not), may not be unplausible.

StillDrSethHazlittMD · 24/06/2016 14:10

Mollie - if you add in those who didn't vote at all with those who did, you get 64%, which means only 36% actually voted out

StillDrSethHazlittMD · 24/06/2016 14:10

Sorry, if you add in those who didn't vote at all, with those who voted to remain, you get 64%. Hence only 36% actually physically voting out.

Valentine2 · 24/06/2016 14:12

Yessss!!! I would vote absolutely in favour of making London a separate state!! Why should we go down for the benefit of a people who don't seem to have a clue hat they have done to the economy that London makes mainly??!

RortyCrankle · 24/06/2016 14:12

Leave has won. We WILL leave. There will be no second vote.
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mollie123 · 24/06/2016 14:14

I see - but who is to say that those who didn't vote at all would have voted 'remain' so it is hardly an endorsement of 'remain' is it? works both ways.

gonetoseeamanaboutadog · 24/06/2016 14:17

Only 37% of the electorate voted leave, at the end of the day. Hardly a majority.

Valentine2 · 24/06/2016 14:18

I am NOT going down for the benefits of delusional lazy folks who didn't think it is going to materialise actually. You have just pushed us decades back. Who should i have sympathy. I say London leaves with Scotland. The rest of the U.K. Can float on their dream island happily forever after. Angry

NeedAScarfForMyGiraffe · 24/06/2016 14:21

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tiggytape · 24/06/2016 14:23

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mollie123 · 24/06/2016 14:23

gone you are absolutely missing the point
over a million more people voted for leave than voted for remain
so the percentage voting 'remain' - is obviously less than those voting to 'leave' Hmm - do you not see the facts are in the numbers.

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 24/06/2016 14:24

I don't think there can or will be another referendum, or that there's any way out of this now.

I do think there'll be a colossal recession - and Farage has already said that spending the money on the NHS was a lie. I think a lot of people are going to end up disappointed. And poor.

tiggytape · 24/06/2016 14:27

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ApocalypseSlough · 24/06/2016 14:27

Democracy is electing accountable people to make informed decisions. Not letting the uninformed and easily manipulated make decisions they cannot understand. That's what Pontius Pilot did.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/06/2016 14:31

So who would you suggest gets to decide who's "informed" and "not easily manipulated" Apocalypse?