to think the Remainers aren't going to take this lying down and we won't leave

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A million plus more people voted leave than remain but still over 16 million voted in. And many of the people this will affect - the under 18s - didn't get a say.

The majority of our elected representatives want us to remain as does our capital city.

The EU wants us to remain and once the leaders have stopped throwing their toys around they will realise they need to reform the EU and make changes that will keep UK and all the other eurosceptic people in.

Today has been a body blow for us remainers but, we're shot of Cameron, so we can re-group and start the fight to remain in the EU but with changes that much of Europe wants.

I voted Remain. I'm gutted at the result but that is democracy.

Although perhaps we might learn from his and in future consider a mechanism to deal with a very narrow majority? I was worried that a close result would cause us problems either way.

if voted on in Parliament it could well be overturned.

Neither prepare for anarchy if they do (they won't)

What do you want to do keep having referendums until you get the result you want? How un democratic can you get.

when the Leave campaign told outright lies to get that vote
But that's part of the problem, despite no way of knowing, those disputing the result are saying voting patterns were based on Leave lies. There isn't any substantial research that gives a breakdown of the issues that prompted people to vote the way they did; or that people who voted Leave feel they were lied to. They could have spotted the lies and voted Leave for other reasons.

For every politican spouting 'dubious' facts in a debate (and there were many on both sides) there was a fairly robust fact checker on the BBC website. For every newspaper article arguing one position; there were others arguing the opposite.

Claiming this result is based on lies is actually just insulting the electorate whilst trying to blame the politicians that you dislike.

Tbh I think that failure to discuss, to engage, to imagine that people on both sides could possibly have had valid reasons for their vote, is why this campaign has been so divisive and polarised. And it's why the political parties have been so shocked by the outcome.

It's eerily similar to when the Labour Party could't understand why people voted for Corbyn a fact they are obviously still struggling with in light of the proposed vote of no confidence

I think not accepting the vote of the referendum would just play into the hands of the extreme right

I completely agree, and since all major parties campaigned to remain, unfortunately that only really leaves UKIP

Those throwing their teddies out of the pram because they didn't get their own way would do well to consider whether they fancy Farage as PM

Spitting their dummies out because they lost. They are showing themselves up. What's the point in voting if they should be the only ones that win? They thought they were going to win and they didn't- and they can't hack it. Sore sore losers. And very arrogant and childish to expect a 2nd a vote.

It's amazing how little democracy means to people when they don't get their own way..THIS

I think the vote has been fundamentally undemocratic because the campaign has been split across parties, without any clear idea of what people are voting for. Frank Field's idea of leaving the EU is clearly very different to Michael Gove's, yet their opinions have been lumped together, leading to the current chaotic situation.

However, better to run with the result than to ignore it and invite more extremism.

when the Leave campaign told outright lies to get that vote

Did remain completely tell the truth then?

It might be possible legally to ignore the result, but it's not politically. And it's ridiculous to be even contemplating this.

It's amazing how little democracy means to people when they don't get their own way

And again.

I voted Leave and am looking forward to getting out. And I'm a highly educated, well-informed person. If that's relevant.

It was predicted a while ago that there would be calls for another referendum if this didn't go the way it was meant to. Imagine if there was a remain vote and all the leavers were up in arms. That's the result. And they will have to deal with it. At last people who've not been listened to for years have been given a voice. I thought I was dreaming last night when I stayed up for the results.

It's time the Islington set sat up and listened to what the majority is saying. Or they could always sign a pact with Nicola and stay in the EU. Then they can negotiate their own deal. Border controls would be interesting.

Still good grief, that beggars belief. Why on earth vote would someone vote 'Leave' just because they assumed Remain would win?! What was the point???? I agree with someone upthread - some members of the general public must be plain thick.

rebecca2014 not everyone who voted remain is elite/middle class. We are working class and poor (and I mean really poor!) but I know that me and my children will have better working conditions by being part of the EU.

Why on earth vote would someone vote 'Leave' just because they assumed Remain would win?!

Tbf I've heard of pretty ridiculous reasons for people voting both ways.

Vile people the remain camp are turning out to be. You are behaving appalling. You lost by well over a million votes, YOU LOST. Its democracy, not just for you elites/middle class but for all of us, we all have a vote so just because you don't like it doesn't mean we should all vote again

That's 15 million people you are saying are vile. Really? There are plenty of people on this thread - me included - who are saying the result needs to be respected.

Yes but there is a reason that democracy is viewed as the 'least worst' form of government by many political scientists over centuries. This rather highlights the one of the criticisms; that the ill-educated get to make the same decisions as the educated.

Winston Churchill was a fervent critic of democracy.

Im a remain voter but I'm also a huge fan of democracy.

I can't accept that such a Massive decision can be taken based on only 36% of the country voting to leave.

Yes I know that's how democracy works. Another Massive mistake by Cameron in not setting a minimum level of Leave votes required.

but Cameron will be replaced by a right wing Brexiter who will happily get us out

Thing is, I don't think Johnson wanted to leave and he hoped for a narrow remain win. He'd acquire the Tory party leadership premiership as the champion of the grass roots Eurosceptic right of the party and all would be ticketyboo.

I don't think he wanted to deal with this shitstorm if he could have helped it and is possibly suffering from a colossal case of buyers remorse.

Another Massive mistake by Cameron in not setting a minimum level of Leave votes required.

Surely if there are rules for one side, they apply to the other too?

Yes Boris is saying "Let's not rush into this".

They are going to have to pull off something big; start another war or use use some terrorist threat to frighten us into staying with Europe.

I honestly don't think Brexit will happen. Cameron is obviously not willing to do it.

Nigel Farage is hardly likely to be PM with a party of one MP! Still the scaremongering goes on. It's like groundhog day.

I'm all for democracy.

I feel very uneasy when you look at the stats.

1. most young people wanted to remain. They will have to deal with the fallout while the majority of brexiters will be dead
2. there was only a million votes in it. That's very close

If leave is such a good idea then why has the sterling plummeted?

The more l think about it, the more l think it won't happen. I'm not sure how they'll do it, maybe this will trigger a terrible recession and when we're nearly out they'll say right, last chance to vote or some such trickery.

But l just can't see how it will go through.

But l was a remain voter so it might just be wishful thinking.

Vile people the remain camp are turning out to be.

If you read the thread you would see plenty of remainers accept the vote and want to stand by it.

Me included. Please do not lump us all in together. I have argued several times today that labelling all brexiters as 'racists' is very wrong.

Lumping people together because they voted the same thing is narrow minded. People can vote the same and feel differently