brexiters this way. come and celebrate here

[Grassgreendashhabi]

I know there will be difficult times ahead.

Staying there was also going to be difficult times afraid.

But I think it's the way forward ! I'm pleased change is on the cards.

I'm pleased at the result but really scared so I won't be joining in the merriment.

However nasty the referendum was, things are going to get a whole lot worse.

4 people in my car were united in their Brexit vote but argued bitterly as to what they wanted for the future instead. Nobody voted out for the same reasons.

Things are going to get very bloody indeed while we try to work out what the majority view is for our future. The majority view will include the views of the remain voters too.

We are in for rough times ahead.

Joysmum, rough times were ahead anyway. The NHS is crumbling, families are living in single room B&Bs and this is before an 80 million population and euro bail out.

I've just seen an actual government petition on FB for the England v Iceland game to be replayed if we lose. 😂

Iniquity yes I agree but those things haven't seen the like of friends and family fighting amongst themselves as the EU has done.

Can I celebrate more money will now be put into the NHS? The money which would have gone to Europe will in the future be spent on health care? Is that what will happen?

Please say yes, before my Champagne goes flat.

SurferJet, there's also a petition for the latest EuroMillions to be redrawn!

😂

Feeling patriotic for the first time in decades. It might sound a bit weird to the remain camp, but nearly all my Asian and Afro Caribbean friends also voted to leave.
So why have I been called a bigot and a racist by my own family?

AnotherPrickInTheWall I'm sorry that is happening to you. I can't really answer for your family, but I do think ( with similar people ) it's because they have fairly low self esteem & not a very happy life. They have no sense of 'belonging' to our country ( in fact, appear to hate it ) & are just a bit lost? So they feel safe belonging to a massive European Union even if it's shite, but it gives them something they can't find in their own country. It's very sad really.

Wow..Serferjet, I think you've hit the nail on the head. There are definitely two camps on this (obviously!) but two different types of people seemed to be voting differently, and I couldn't quite put my finger on what that was. The Brexiters I know aren't racist, ect...but I couldn't quite put my finger on it. Low self esteem sums it up perfectly.

It's obviously a very complex thing, and I know millions of people will dispute they have low self esteem (and I'm sure some Brixiters obviously don't!) but it certainly explains a lot to me, regarding the people I know personally.

Another petition on my FB feed Surfer:

Rename Snickers to Marathon & Starburst to Opal Fruits

The U.K. was at risk of recession so let's see what happens.

Anything BAD that happens from now will be blamed on Brexit.

My racist - openly racist - mother, who voted Remain because of self interested concerns about the economy, isn't speaking to me. That's a bonus

DH and I still call them Marathons and Opal Fruits.

It's like some special code our DC don't understand, and we don't want them enlightened.

MangoMoon

The 'belonging' thing is interesting. It's so very fashionable to hate the UK and all the 'little Englanders' who live in it. I find that many Remainers, as well as having low self esteem, are also very much not of the Establishment.

What my Great Aunt might have called ordinaire.

So sneering at other English people makes them feel superior as of course sneering at other races would make them, well, racist.

I also suspect they feel being 'European' gives them a Gauloise-scented whiff of chic they perhaps always longed for.

And now the poor loves are back to being English, how very suburban.

Lol Mooing, your last 2 paragraphs nail it!

How terribly suburban indeed...!

I haven't managed to articulate this yet. But I find many Remainers quite rules focused and unimaginative. This to them is absolutely bonkers.

Yes, I know some Leavers are going to be racist. But I feel most have thought about this in fundamentally different terms. The warnings of diverse economic catastrophe didn't wash. I find that incredible and in a good way. That 17 million people took that on board and STILL felt there was a better option.

It's this "fuck you" attitude that made the UK great in the first place. I don't mean that crudely but only in the sense that a certain natural rebellion is a wonderful trait. And it's been shown in bucket lads.

Agree Roonerspism the remainers lack individuality & imagination.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2670691-Misconceptions-about-Leave-Voters?pg=1

Good point about rules-based & risk averse; I suppose it must pretty much fall in line with the personality model things as well.

On the (Myers Briggs?) thing I have come out as ENFP consistently over the years - I adapt well to change, I am naturally optimistic & I'm imaginative - I'm better with big picture stuff but shit with details.

I would be more interested in how personality types voted than education levels/age tbh - I think it's probably more relevant on single issue emotive things like this.

Am very happy.

I rexcomend the book the trouble with Europe which looks at different things that might happen now. Very interesting

More petitions have been started:

Replay the Argentina v England quarter final of the 1986 World Cup

Allow Stuart Pearce to retake his penalty from the 1990 World Cup semi final

A rematch for the Battle of Hastings in 1066 as I am unhappy with the result

Ignoring the doom and gloom invaders hopefully tampons will become vat free once we are officially out... You no the blood obsorbing things that the EU believe are a luxury yet helicopters have no vat 

Errrrr.....

www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/17/budget-2016-george-osborne-on-verge-of-deal-to-strike-down-tampon-tax

Mango