AIBU to be cheerful and optimistic about Brexit because....

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We had a record-breaking 72% of the population take part :)

Our sovereignty will be restored

The first General Election in decades that will truly be about how the country is governed

MPs will be directly held accountable

We can plan a proper strategy for immigration and allocate resources to avoid overloading services

We can have a fair immigration strategy

We can be more versatile and responsive to world economic changes

We can decide how to spend our national resources

House prices are projected to fall meaning more people will be able to first time buy

There will be downward pressure on prices of goods as import terms (we buy more in than we sell out) can be negotiated directly with UK

There will be inward investment as many manufacturers will prefer a UK base rather than their current EU base

What other positives are there?

Posted this on another thread, but same applies here.
And this is the legacy we hand on, hailed by the fascists, the racists, the hate-mongerers, the neo-nazis, the far right. Brilliant. Well done Britain, you had one job and you spectacularly fucked it up.

There may well be short term pain but I believe it is the best decision in the long run.

I agree.

Charley50 why should Corbyn have to resign, he's not been in post 12 months yet. Previous governments labour/coalition/tory have a lot to answer for, Cameron has been in post for 8 years - he should have got a grip on it by now.

Charley50 why should Corbyn have to resign, he's not been in post 12 months yet. Previous governments labour/coalition/tory have a lot to answer for, Cameron has been in post for 8 years - he should have got a grip on it by now.

The currency is crashing. That means people all over the world will be looking at UK property as an investment at discounted rates. House prices will fall but they will be snapped up by the very foreigners you seem so afraid of.
I'm really glad you are happy though, you bunch of morons.

Ooops

Free migration of workers will still apply: all European countries with a trade deal with the EU have had to agree to this so we certainly won't be able to avoid it.

We will not be part of the EU. We don't have to follow their stupid rules any more.
They sell more to us than we sell to them, we are in a good negotiating position. Is there any other trade block that insists in this silly rule?

British companies will still relocate to Europe with EU money. The EU regional fund is for opening factories in deprived areas, not for closing UK ones. this will still happen.
who would open a new factory in the UK today?

The EU is too slow and moribund? Well what about the WTO whose chief said that deals there would take years too.

Nice to see that it ALL takes time and there are no quick fixes.

Purits we never had to follow their "stupid" rules, France and Spain didn't, they looked after their own citizens. Its a f*ing omni-shambles.

European court of human rights will still apply. Really, and how long is that going to continue?

So are we still feeling cheerful and optimistic now that Farage has already started backtracking? www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-result-nigel-farage-nhs-pledge-disowns-350-million-pounds-a7099906.html

We will not be part of the EU. We don't have to follow their stupid rules any more.

Of course we will. We need to trade with them, so we will have no choice but to abide by their trading rules. The problem will be that we will no longer have any say at all in what those rules are.

The fact that people seriously based their vote on massive misconceptions like this makes me despair. When it all goes tits up, you'll still be blaming, Europe, won't you? Anything rather than take responsibility.

We will not be part of the EU. We don't have to follow their stupid rules any more.
They sell more to us than we sell to them, we are in a good negotiating position. Is there any other trade block that insists in this silly rule?

We won't be part of the EU but we do not yet have the independence of manage without a free trade deal, at least for the next couple of decades. There are no European (not EU) countries which have a free trade deal which have not had to agree to free migration: Norway, Switzerland, all those countries hailed as managing brilliantly outside the EU....they all have free migration. We can tighten borders but the free movement of migrant workers is here to stay.

peachpudding, you had better hope that the our membership of the ECHR will continue. We set it up for extremely good reasons after the last war, and we drafted its rules. Though I agree that if idiots like Gove and Johnson get in there is no certainty whatsoever that they will have the sense to stay in.

"We will not be part of the EU. We don't have to follow their stupid rules any more.
They sell more to us than we sell to them, we are in a good negotiating position"

We will have to follow rules if we want to export to the EU, just now we won't be in the room when the standards and rules are negotiated, therefore British governments won't be able to represent out businesses interests in our largest exports.

They also have a better negotiating position than is. EU trade with the UK equals 3% of their GDP, UK trade with the EU represents 15% of our GDP and much of our financial services, which is 16% of GDP, is based on EU trade.

One of the Leavers has already announced on TV that they probably won't be able to guarantee that 350 million a week, will be going into w NHS.

I wonder when the leavers will wake up to the fact they've been lied to!

There are no European (not EU) countries which have a free trade deal which have not had to agree to free migration

But there are countries who trade who have not had to agree to free migration. So it can be done.
I repeat: we don't have to abide by their rules any more. That's what this vote was all about.

And this is the legacy we hand on,

And you want decisions made for this country to be handed to people like that. You have just utterly highlighted why I voted out. The decision to goven ourselves

But there are countries who trade who have not had to agree to free migration. So it can be done.
I repeat: we don't have to abide by their rules any more

wow! fundamental misunderstanding of import/export!

In order to trade with europe, our exports have to follow their rules or else our products will not be allowed on sale in EU countries

If you trade with them you have to follow their rules - all countries exporting to EU does! only difference now is that we don't get a say in the rules

purits
How familiar are you with EU Anti-Dumping rules?
"Dumping is often understood to occur whenever excessively cheap or below-cost imports are made available on a market, but the reality is a bit more nuanced. Dumping occurs when a company sells its products at a cheaper price on the export market when compared with its own domestic market. The EU anti-dumping regulation, Council Regulation No 1225/2009, regulates at EU level the procedure for the imposition of anti-dumping duties."

You can't just sell to the EU at any price you want if you are not a member.

We will have to follow rules if we want to export to the EU, just now we won't be in the room when the standards and rules are negotiated, therefore British governments won't be able to represent out businesses interests in our largest exports.

This sort of lilly-livered thinking really annoys me. There is a whole of the Rest of the World to trade with - why do you think that everything starts and ends with the EU?
We don't get any say on American standards but it doesn't stop us trading there.
Open your eyes and start thinking big.
The EU has held us back for too long.

Puritost (sigh)

Yes there'll be uncertainty for a while, but moving even further into the clutches of an unelected, unaccountable quast-state wasn't an alternative for many of us

It's true that about 3 million jobs depend on our trade with europe, but let's not forget that even more millions of EU jobs depend on their trade with us - and I honestly doubt they'll damage their own interests just to spite the UK

My main worry is whether or not, despite the result, we really will actually leave; a lot of snouts are very deep in this particular trough, and it's hard to ignore the comments about the poll being "advisory" ...

In order to trade with europe, our exports have to follow their rules

And in order to trade with us they have to follow our rules.
We negotiate.
We work out a mutually agreeable deal.