AIBU to be cheerful and optimistic about Brexit because....

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We had a record-breaking 72% of the population take part :)

Our sovereignty will be restored

The first General Election in decades that will truly be about how the country is governed

MPs will be directly held accountable

We can plan a proper strategy for immigration and allocate resources to avoid overloading services

We can have a fair immigration strategy

We can be more versatile and responsive to world economic changes

We can decide how to spend our national resources

House prices are projected to fall meaning more people will be able to first time buy

There will be downward pressure on prices of goods as import terms (we buy more in than we sell out) can be negotiated directly with UK

There will be inward investment as many manufacturers will prefer a UK base rather than their current EU base

What other positives are there?

Right but if people are put off selling then there are fewer houses on the market and supply still won't meet demand so those houses on the market will attract a higher price not the other way round as there are so few on the market?

Yeah, that's exactly what happens in a market crash

Anyone hoping for new house building to help with affordability might as well start buying their bricks now because a 40% share drop in TaylorWimpey and their ilk says they won't be investing in growth any time soon.

My DH's business requires him working in the EU. If it goes under we lose our income, our home and well, everything really.
My business requires people having disposable income.
On the bright side if house prices plummet we shall be in negative equity before we lose our house and become bankrupt. So yah boo sucks to the bank.

Good times (potentially)

There will be inward investment as many manufacturers will prefer a UK base rather than their current EU base

What manufacturers?

We never lost our sovereignty?

Adult in trying to work out what everyone is getting excited about regarding house prices falling.

I don't understand how house prices will fall.

Interests rates will go down I don't know how house prices will too

Good idea! Lets put our finger in our ears and skip around singing 'La! La! La! Markets? What markets?'

There are a lot of people in this country who feel they don't have a lot to loose right now and voted hoping for change. It's a simplistic view, i know, but i believe this is a big reason for the result we've had.

I'm hoping there's a fall in house prices so that our family can afford one. I wont apologise for it.

Ghosty the ECHR is entirely separate to the EU and atherefore will stay, thank god.

I'm pleased with the result too. And other countries in Europe are considering similar action.

Another positive is that we can have further funds available long term to invest in schools and NHS and public services.

I also agree there may be short term uncertainty but great long term benefits. I'm happy with that.

Plus it's going to be about 2 years before we leave so we have time to plan for change.

Another positive is that we can have further funds available long term to invest in schools and NHS and public services.

What, with a Tory government at the helm? Yeah, that'll happen.

I don't understand how house prices will fall.

then you must be underestimating the sheer number of people waking up today worrying about their EU funded jobs. You really think those people are going to feel confident taking on a mortgage?

Where's the humility in all the rudeness from the remain vote?

I also agree there may be short term uncertainty but great long term benefits. I'm happy with that.

And you are entitled to if that is what you believe, but remember when you're chosing the words, that some people are already at breaking point already, and don't have the means or the strenght to weather the short term uncertainty that you are confident you can survive

Self governance is lovely, until you have a nutter in charge.

The 'take back your country' spin was a fab tagline ... take back from who, exactly?
The idea that there'll be extra money for public services is lovely, but has anyone totted up how much public money will be spent on reorganisation and review of all EU links? Billions. Billions.

Toffeelatte, why do remain voters have to be polite about people who have put the country into the hands of the racists, the opportunists and the greedy?

fuzzy
Why do you think interest rates will go down? The pound is weak so imports are now more expensive. That may well push up prices leading to inflation which in turn will lead to the BoE putting up interest rates.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36537906

I wouldn't be certain about interest rates falling.

Where's the humility in all the rudeness from the remain vote?

The remainers on my facebook who are using strong words are all employed or studying under EU funding and their lives are in tatters. I think they're allowed a few "what the fuck have you done to us"s under the circumstances

I'm so thrilled that my self employed husbands pension fund has halved overnight, he's a builder in his 60's, he is really happy that me, his even older wife might have to carry on working to support us both.
Ds's girlfriend, who works for a city based institution is over the moon, she received her redundancy notice by email, but does it matter, she can sell her flat if she can't afford to pay her mortgage, oops forgot about the negative equity thing!!

If we sign up to similar agreements as Norway and Switzerland which is what the brexit fools argued for we will have to follow EU immigration rules as they do

If! If! If!
Who says we have to sign up to the same deal as Norway and Switzerland?

Project Fear's talk about trade agreements really annoyed me. All that talk about the Canadian deal taking 10 years to complete. Who wants to tie themselves to a Union that takes 10 years to make a decision. What were they negotiating about - betamax tapes?
The EU to too slow and moribund. We are in the internet age, we are much more nimble without them. They should be having less red tape as they expand, not more. Their ideology is all wrong (as we have always known, hence all our opt-outs).

The politicians will be so busy sorting out a leadership election that we will have no control over anything... Stabalising the Economy is the absolute priority.

We will have immigration either way and we can absorb immigration anyway (or we could when we had a strong economy)

There may well be short term pain but I believe it is the best decision in the long run.

Lovely. I'm sure that will be a massive consolation to people losing their homes and jobs.

Laiste
This is problem some remain voters have with some leave voters. It seems they've made the decision in a very short term it's and, frankly, quite blinkered manner.
Do you have your deposit saved? If the markets don't recover then you're going to find everything a lot more expensive. The affordability criteria is pretty strict. That's if you can find a lender ready to offer at a good rate or at all. The banks are nervous. They're not going to be offering out mortgages freely.
Also, job losses= lower consumer spending= less liquidity in the economy= economic slow down= more job losses. Just because your job isn't tied to Europe doesn't mean this won't affect you.

There may well be short term pain but I believe it is the best decision in the long run

Yeah. What's a bit of short term homelessness so long as the people who have a few extra notches of their belts left to tighten can sit back and think of the long term gains while they merrily discuss how "actually, own brand isn't that bad is it darling?" - fuck the people who are already stretched to breaking point and have nothing left to cut back on, they're just too stupid and negative to "see the bigger picture" right?

European court of human rights will still apply. That isn't the same thing as the EU.

Free migration of workers will still apply: all European countries with a trade deal with the EU have had to agree to this so we certainly won't be able to avoid it.

Refugees from countries we have had a hand in bombing aren't an EU issues either. We still have a moral obligation to help people: the only difference is that the EU countries won't have to police our borders for us: we'll have to do it all ourselves.

... so we still get EU migrants, we still get refugees, we still get human rights. We lose out on having our say in the EU parliament, where out of over 2500 decisions we have only been outvoted on 50 odd over the last 40 years. In the last 5 years these have included clean air and water (we voted no as it would cost money but were overruled for the good of all). Struggling to find a positive tbf, but I'm sure something will come to me. I would have said that 350 million for the NHS, except Farage admitted that was an electioneering lie (he called it 'a mistake') this morning....still thinking.....OK, so my only positive is that we get access to European human rights, which we already had. Hmmm