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To point out that not ALL people who voted leave are racist

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EsmeraldaEllaBella · 24/06/2016 08:47

I'd describe myself as extreme left. I voted leave because the EU's undemocratic. Today I wake up to ALL of my Facebook posting statuses about how they feel sick etc. all my friends are liberal, some of them would hate me if they knew. But if I was asked outright I'd probably be honest. I've made new friends recently who would definitely never speak to me again if they knew though. I feel like everyone who voted leave has been branded a racist. I feel uncomfortable that probably lots of them are sad I feel very uneasy being lumped in with them and might come to regret my decision

Posted this elsewhere but in need of some hand holding I think! Or maybe someone who feels the same way? Anyone?

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Figmentofmyimagination · 28/06/2016 13:37

"I did not use my vote as a protest love.

I was just pissed off with the EU as a body in general - the final straw for me was when they banned mothballs containing naphthalene. Oh and various household cleaners. And following their directive the Government banned the import of 100W light bulbs. I have to go out of my way to find them now. I refuse to buy any other type".

"Then the EU banned powerful vacuums cleaners. I don't know what to do when mine packs in.

Then they banned those circular crystal toilet disinfectant blocks because they said they were highly toxic. I don't care about that, they leave your bathroom smelling so fresh!"

WTF - good to see that the future of young people was sacrificed for such worthy causes. I don't think this can be a real person. If they are real, they are clearly sociopathic.

BertrandRussell · 28/06/2016 13:50

I don't believe Mothball Lady. I think she should be ignored. Not fair to judge Leavers by her.

virtualrach · 28/06/2016 13:55

Mothball lady! GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

thecook · 28/06/2016 14:07

WTF - good to see that the future of young people was sacrificed for such worthy causes. I don't think this can be a real person. If they are real, they are clearly sociopathic

I voted for myself love. Why would I think of young people?

TriniRedVelvet · 28/06/2016 14:10

I think mothball lady was being sarcastic.

virtualrach · 28/06/2016 14:28

I voted for myself love. Why would I think of young people?

You're on mumsnet. One would think you might have children and care about their future? Otherwise, what on earth are you doing on here? Apart from the fact that you're clearly are just a troll! Or have the IQ of a slug! :)

merrymouse · 28/06/2016 15:06

I voted for myself love. Why would I think of young people?

Because completely selfishly, they will be paying the taxes and performing the services that will enable you to survive when you are old. (They would be a bit stretched if all the immigrants really were going to leave, but that was never really likely despite the campaigning of the Leave campaign).

It is completely logical to act in your own interests, but it's best to read the small print first.

ldag8481 · 28/06/2016 15:46

VirtualRach

I admire your passion in arguing your case, but this was for before the referendum. I honestly hope we sort this out, and the only way is to work together.. if people keep thinking what could have been we wont get anywhere...

QQ, do you agree with the EU 100% on everything it does?

originalmavis · 28/06/2016 15:52

Mothballs.

God, don't forget the fuckers banning asbesdos, lead paint and woodchips in jam. Killjoys.

user1466690252 · 28/06/2016 15:55

Hello everyone. We are trying to start a group tackling this issue and trying to create more unity. Please like us in fb and come and share ideas how we csn make things better

To point out that not ALL people who voted leave are racist
HippiePrincess · 28/06/2016 16:02

I know plenty of people who have racist/ xenophobic views and voted to remain
And vice versa

BreakingDad77 · 28/06/2016 16:06

I know plenty of people who have racist/ xenophobic views and voted to remain

Hmm Im curious to know what they are racisit/xenophobic about then while voting remain.

virtualrach · 28/06/2016 16:08

Idag, as per that blog I posted, please tell me what you are actively doing now to make this work?

'people telling me that what we have to do now is ‘pull together’ to ‘make this country great.’ Not one single person who has chastised me with the ‘pulling together’ line has actually answered me when I’ve asked how they’re going to do that. Unless you’re a millionaire or a business owner, or a politician, there are very few ways you can ‘pull together’ unless you’re going to get politically active. Like the term ‘democracy,’ it is being used in a way that is actually meaningless. Mostly, as far as I can see it is being used as short hand for ‘Don’t blame me. Don’t ask me. Don’t question me. I need to feel better about this and your questions are stopping me doing that.’ Sorry, not buying it. Tell me how you’re genuinely going to help our country ‘pull together’ and I’ll listen.'

gonetoseeamanaboutadog · 28/06/2016 16:09

I know plenty of people who have racist/ xenophobic views and voted to remain

I don't. The racists I know voted to leave (the obvious choice for a racist). Not to say that everyone who voted Leave is a racist but they're in poor company.

BreakingDad77 · 28/06/2016 16:10

QQ, do you agree with the EU 100% on everything it does?

Of course its not perfect, but its the best way of doing things at the moment. In the uk we have unelected, prime ministers, house of lords, civil servants etc and we just get on with it, im in safe Tory seat so pointless voting.

Stuff can get done in Europe, Hugh Fearnly Whitting chef even got discards chnaged, but we have to engage with it, UKIP MEP's are screwing it all up.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 28/06/2016 16:17

I am sure there are people who voted to remain who have racist views

does it extend to who they vote for not necessarily as I think most people vote down to their own circumstances and what they think is best for them/their family

not everyone who has racist views is so driven to vote for a party that supports their views (i have known staunch labour supporters who have questionable views more along the lines of them and us rather than they come here and steal our jobs) as they may not feel immigration impacts their lives but keeping a tory party in power does as it protects their finances

but sadly the referendum campaign by ukip has certainly stirred up feelings of hatred

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 28/06/2016 16:20

but isn't all this debate (myself included) all leavers are racist they are saying no we are not detracting from the very serious issue of increased attacks

STIDW · 28/06/2016 16:21

Of course not everyone who voted leave was racists. The problem is the Leave campaigns were complicit in the racism because they didn't disassociate themselves from the nasties. Apparently Leave.EU even targeted FB advertising at the BNP, Britain First & EDL.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 28/06/2016 16:29

Leave.EU that is a far right campaign

I agree the Leave campaign didn't distance themselves enough

raisedbyguineapigs · 28/06/2016 16:30

The problem is that by voting leave, you have validated racism and xenophobia. The small number (hopefully) of people who are racist think they are now in the majority. And whether you like it or not, the reason you won is because people who want to kick all the immigrants out of th e country, as well as the out and out racists voted with you. If the leave campaign had been fought solely on a platform of sovereignty it would have had a much lower turnout and the status quo would have been maintained.

BreakingDad77 · 28/06/2016 16:34

I have already posted a picture on here of some renowned far right activists manning a vote leave stand. Vote leave just buried their head over it.

They played fast and loose to capture that displaced anger at stresses on public services.

EnthusiasmDisturbed · 28/06/2016 16:34

I voted remain

I think many people who voted leave (and I was tempted) felt uncomfortable with that (myself) but how they view the EU as a whole was so important to them they still felt it was right to vote leave

and that includes members of my family who are immigrants who have suffered horrendous racism

Asprilla11 · 28/06/2016 16:41

The reality is on on many threads I and other leave voters have not only not condoned racism, we have condemned it.

UKIP has been around for years, Far Right groups have been around for much much longer, they exist in every EU country.

The Referendum did not invent these groups, it didn't give them an idea for a message, they had that hatred long before we even entered the EU.

Whilst the Referendum gave some of them a voice and brought them out from under their stones, they were still there to be challenged for their views for many years prior to this month!

If you judge a group of voters by your Facebook News Feed and a few tabloid newspapers then you show similar ignorance to what the racists do. Myself and millions of other people are not on Facebook or Twitter, Social Media is not the general public's gospel opinion.

Tackling racism and xenophobia is the responsibility of Society, which means leave voters, remain voters and non voters.

Mooky500 · 28/06/2016 16:42

Speaking to a remain voter the other day they said "my worry now is that they are going to send all those people from the jungle camp in Calais over here".
Sadly I'm sure this isn't the only remain voter who is thinking this but it's ok they voted remain so they're not a racist.

HippiePrincess · 28/06/2016 17:04

Yes Mooky that has been the kind of response from some of the leavers I know.
Many of the leavers' views I have had trouble with are not anti racist at all. They're just elitist and anti working class.

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