Can we all please just grow the fuck up?

[Peppatina]

It's all getting a tad hysterical, no?

From the same people who are just yesterday calling for calm today whatever the result I'm now getting the most vile diatribe.

To hear them tell it over half those that voted are:

A) Poor or in shit jobs
B) Racists
C) Stupid and because they are less educated.
D) Old fogeys fucking up the country for the young'uns.

Is it that bloody hard to accept there were good reasons to vote EITHER way depending on your own circumstances.

The people who voted opposite to you aren't stupid because they came to a different conclusion than you did.

Honestly it's like the G.E all over again. Hatred and bile being spouted by people who are supposedly liberal and open minded but have no problem demonising half of the population and sneering at the less educated working class.

And I voted labour last election but was shocked by the reaction from my fellow losers.

I couldn't agree more.
But then, as much as I like my.sent, I didn't expect anything less.

This place is ALL about the dramA.

Factor in that MN seems to be mainly lefties and you have perfect conditions for off drama AND hysteria.

LIKE MN

I didn't say 8 million were

I did. I stand by it.

Right well you keep on being a bit confused and condescending about over half of the people that voted.

I'm going to stand by what I said. Stating that over 8 million people in the UK are racist because they didn't agree with you is petulant childish behavior and shows that people who think like that obviously aren't as open minded, tolerant and intelligent as they think they are.

My family is quite racist and they voted remain. No one is going to close the borders and send all the immigrants home. There is a difference in voting because you hate immigrants and voting because you want to be able to control it.

To say someone is not worthy of a vote because they are less intelligent than you goes against everything democracy stands for. Can people not see the irony in calling out racists (as they should), and proceeding to sneer at the working class? Disgusts me.

I think the thing to remember is that even if remain had won, roughly 50% of the population would have voted to leave and they would not have suddenly disappeared.

Their opinions would have affected the way politics is conducted going forward because whatever the result today there will be another election in at most 4 years.

Look at the Scottish referendum - the SNP went on to completely dominate the UK parliament in Scotland and if not yet independence, increased devolution is a certainty. Things change.

Whatever the result the same people would have made up the UK on Friday as on Thursday. As long as we think more about the legacy of Jo Cox than the bitterness and blame we will be OK. Time for the much maligned 'educated elite' to role up their sleeves and get on with sorting out the mess of the referendum. (Which, at this point, would have been inevitable which ever side had won, but perhaps with a slightly stronger pound...).

I understand what you're saying but it goes both ways to. One of my so called friends on Facebook has just posted that they find it hilarious how the people who voted remain think that they intelligent and morally superior to the ones who voted leave. He's a complete tosser most of the time anyway so it's given me a reason to unfriend him. But why put on a comment like that.

Laurie I totally agree with you.

I voted leave but not easily. I don't feel any great joy this morning, I have very mixed feelings but mostly trepidation About the unknown, but also a sense of hope. I don't think it will be easy but I think it will probably be better than the alternative in the long run, even if it takes a few years to feel like it.

I would liken this to leaving a bad marriage that's run its course. The thought of going it alone is scary and will take nerves of steel and a leap of faith but nothing can change for the better until we take that first step.

My granny always said 'if you want to make an omelette first you have to break some eggs.'

Massive that EU migrant who is going to pull out of her house purchase, all I can say to that is that she's had plenty of notice that this referendum would be happening, and plenty of opportunity to consider the impact of a Leave result on the money markets, the housing market and her personal and professional circumstances. If her house buying finances are that finely balanced that she can't weather any temporary downturn then what the hell was she thinking, starting the process ahead of the referendum?

At what point does scaremongering / hysterical become accepted as a reaction in proportion to what is actually happening and going to happen next?

Where is that line in the sand?

We could all come up with an anecdote about an old person in Basildon who's a roofer and voted Remain. But the data that have been published do show a very noticeable demographic split by age and by whatever the correct descriptor for the A/B/C/D differentiator is. And the map also shows some pretty predictable Remain blips in a sea of Brexit, in London, Brighton, Cambridge and Oxford, for example. So while people individually conceivably had all kinds of reasons for voting Leave, actually overall, the younger, more educated, professional people voted Remain, and it shouldn't be offensive to point it out.

And given that the OP did almost immediately reference immigration, it's hard to imagine that schroedingers foreigner had no influence on her in specific .

holidaysarenice, don't be so glib. This result has very real, and immediate, ramifications on the careers and income streams of many of us.

I'm a freelancer and the 4 different companies I work for all eased off giving commissions to freelancers for the past few months, and warned that they'd stop using us at all if Britain leaves the EU. As they'll now be looking to making their London offices smaller and expanding Paris. So I'm not actually sure how I'll be providing for my children for the foreseeable future.

I don't understand how this result could cause a house sale to fall through today , can those poster old explain?

Sorry, please explain!

A friend who is a conveyancing solicitor looked very stressed on the school run this morning and said a lot of chains will fall apart because buyers will be worried about being caught in negative equity.

That was before she'd been into the office, though, so just speculation for now I assume.

I have friends who live in Ireland but work in NI and are paid in pounds. I think their world has changed pretty much overnight.

Ah such pearls of wisdom weekend. You and your granny should apply for the vacancy at No 10. You make more sense than Boris

But then, as it has been said, Boris has sacrificed a million jobs to gain one

Factor in that MN seems to be mainly lefties and you have perfect conditions for off drama AND hysteria.

Posted by the person who thinks Norway is in the EU. It encapsulates everything ever said about the intelligence of Leave voters.

God the threads on here are depressing.

Chavs, poor, old age, shit job, unintelligent, racist, xenophobic.

Leavers should be ashamed, shouldn't be allowed to vote without an IQ test...it's all over mumsnet.

How the fuck can you consider yourselves enlightened, liberal, tolerant, all these moral things you think you have over people (just because they came to a different conclusion to you.)

You know what? I give up.

But at least don't try to kid yourselves. You don't have the moral high ground here especially not with the attitudes I'm seeing here and on SM.

YOU should be ashamed of yourselves.

(NB- that isn't directed at all remain voters, only those that subscribe to the views above)

A majority of 18-50 year olds voted in.

Would this vote have had a different result if we had allowed those aged 16 plus to vote as well?

Since older voters were more likely to vote and vote out and younger voters more likely to vote remain but less likely to vote maybe instead of insulting everyone else the remain voters should vent on all the young people who could not be bothered to vote as they could have made the difference.
We're were we are,we need to be the best we can and get on with it.Im not minimising the problems some individuals may have but lashing out helps noone.

Agreed. I think it's perfectly acceptable to be upset, or even angry. And I think it's okay to voice this. But two things:

1. Your right to be upset does not give you the right to insult nearly 52% of voters just because they don't agree with you.

2. Crying about how bad this is isn't going to help you or the people you're worrying about - direct your attention to making the best of what you view as a bad situation.

I do appreciate the concern people are genuinely feeling but do we really have to be rude and condescending to each other?

I totally agree Peppatina, this is a democratic decision, therefore it is decided by the majority.
I'm utterly sickened by the completely OTT reactions on here and elsewhere.
It's hysteria and shit stirring by the bitter minority

As a black woman who has been spat at, called a nigger every day for 5 years, had shit thrown at me and been beaten to a pulp at the bus stop - I take high offence to the word "racist" getting thrown about. Faux liberal bullshit.

I'm very well educated and saw the pros and cons of Brexit. Each side truly had valid arguments. There is a good argument for Brexit outside of "we hate immigrants".

And by the way - Immigration has genuinely destroyed certain communities. Of course it has. Maybe if we weren't so quick to dismiss the people on the shitty end of the stick things would have gone differently.

It's also been great for the economy in certain aspects and has provided us with great labour and skills.

Both sides had a valid argument. We as a democracy voted. There it is.

And for those preaching about divisiveness....take some of your own bloody advice because remainers are ironically starting to sound hysterical. Calling brexiters stupid and divisive is guess what.....stupid and divisive!!!!!

"bitter minority" 48% of the population is not a minority.

I'm sorry that makes you sickened.

Now will you pay my mortgage and that of my friends and family please?

No surprise at all you have a family business op.