Anyone else really worried now?

[MrsBlackthorn]

My work has started quietly drawing up contingency plans for if Brexit happens. Same at DH's work. Could mean lots of jobs moving to Germany and Ireland at both our firms. We're already seeing far fewer people investing or spending money.

I'm bloody terrified. Could lose my job. House could end up in negative equity. And for what?

I don't even think it's "project fear" from the government anymore... News today showed investors are taking money out of the UK faster than anytime since the crash. People with "skin in the game" voting with their money.

I understand that for lots of people the EU referendum isn't about money. however, because of a lot of it leaving, stopping coming in, or just simply being worth less... Well that leaves us screwed for a very long time. Fewer jobs. Less tax money coming in - so less money for the NHS and so on. So even if we 'take back control', of what exactly. what will we be 'in control' of?

I'm really worried about "Leave" happening and me and my family being utterly f*ed in a few months time as a result. Has the country lost its mind?

Anyone else worried about where this leaves us?

Harder for people who have waited patiently on a council housing list who are effectively being usurped by people who imo shouldn't be allowed here in the first place.

There is a chronic shortage of council houses because they were sold off by the UK government in 80's and 90's. Do you include the thousands of migrant NHS workers as those who shouldn't be here?

I think if the workers are needed then fair enough but we don't need pregnant teenagers from Romania, totally different situation.

There is a chronic shortage of council houses because they were sold off by the UK government in 80's and 90's.

So you evidently subscribe to the 'there are too few houses' rather than 'there are too many migrants'. If number of people seeking housing exceeds current housing stock I would suggest we stop adding extra people to the amount who are looking for housing until we have sufficient available. Ditto with school places. Ditto with hospitals.

This 'elastic' home,s schools and hospitals is a tired cliche that is emitted by certain sections of the Labour party and which most rational and realistic people just laugh at.

Do you include the thousands of migrant NHS workers as those who shouldn't be here?

Not every migrant is an NHS worker. Many migrants come without any job, 21,000 last year alone. Many find work as minimum wage car washers or in hospitality.. We have 1.7 million habitually resident UK citizens on benefits who could be trained to do this work. Bringing more and more people into the UK is just like one giant Ponzi scheme - don't forget, they too will be old one day and what then - bring in even more?

Only 6% of UK businesses trade with the EU but we are all stuck with EU legislation. I'm voting to leave so that we can be governed by UK legislation and set our own trade relationships.

No one really knows how long uncertainty will last.
But the EU in economic terms is a disaster, especially long term. The poor buggers in Greece are having a hell of a time.
It will be in everyone's interests to gain certainty ASAP on Brexit.
I was furious at the cavalier attitude during Indyref and extremely worried about the economic consequences (rightly, given the oil situation now).

I'm utterly buoyant at the thought of a Brexit and the economic benefits in the longer term. I really am.

Bit like the elastic walls in Soap opera houses spring :)

Also I question this constant overseas recruiting. Aren't there students or graduates from our own universities to work in the NHS?

Where is the certainty on remain? What will the Euro look like in 1, 3, 5, 10 years time?

There are certainties in Remaining, for sure.

Greece will default on its next loan repayment, requiring another bailout from the EU, Greek unemployment rates will continue to climb.

Unemployment across Southern Europe will increase as their economies are put under more strain from the failing Euro.

The inflow of MENA migrants will continue. Angela Merkel will insist that all EU countries take their fair share of the approx 1 million per year that arrive.

A few more poorer Eastern European countries will be admitted to the EU, requiring increased contributions from the UK as funding.

Turkey's accession will be fast-tracked as they hold the EU to ransom with the threat of opening the floodgates to all migrants from their shores.

In the UK, public services will be put under even more pressure as more and more EU migrants and their families continue to move here.

Exactly limer. The Euro is fucked

That's the future of the EU Mother and you're happy to vote Remain? The EU is one big superstate, rest assured we'll be feeling the after-effects here.

What percentage do you recommend the EU Tax is set at, to cover all these additional costs?

mother you are incredibly naive. Of course turkey will join. There have been secret talks already to grant some free movement of workers.

The economies of Southern Europe are so buggered that there is already a flow of migrants north.

The migrants from Merckel's ridiculous policy have mainly been economic migrants.

Rooney - mother is not naive. You are peddling a falsehood. Don't forget Cyprus and Greece also have a veto on turkey membership.there have been discussions on visas not free movement.

Yup and all those Syrians escaping bombs are economic migrants. Dear god

For some facts on EU migration see here www.richardcorbett.org.uk/migration/

EU migration into the UK is in fact more or less the same as UK migration into the EU wg

Of course Syrians aren't economic migrants

But look at the numbers coming into Germany and their countries of origin. Many, many are economic migrants.

I have German friends - there is fury at what Merckel has done.

That the EU has so utterly neglected those really in need, effectively encouraging illegal crossing at sea, underlines what a fucking useless enterprise the EU is when it matters

The British Embassy in Ankara has a team dedicated to Turkey's accession.

www.gov.uk/government/world/organisations/british-embassy-ankara

Cameron talks about conditions needing to be met. As we saw with Greece's accession, the EU Parliament can be lenient and happy to turn a blind eye when it suits them.

Slightly more lighthearted

Greece will default on its next loan repayment, requiring another bailout from the EU, Greek unemployment rates will continue to climb

OK - lets leave them to it then, bearing in mind that are dealing with most of the immigration from MEA

Unemployment across Southern Europe will increase as their economies are put under more strain from the failing Euro.

Rooney - mother is not naive. You are peddling a falsehood. Don't forget Cyprus and Greece also have a veto on turkey membership.there have been discussions on visas not free movement

Who'd have predicted that countries once behind the Iron Curtain would ever have joined the EU? That would have been unthinkable 30 years ago.

Turkey will join. There is no doubt about that. It will not neet all the chapters that it should in order to qualify for membership as those terms wil be fudged by the EU, just as it fudged Romania's mebership terms and the fitness of the Greek and Italian economies to jin the Euro.

The EU makes rules - and then tears them up. We should know that ny now.

As recenylt as a few months ago it overeruled its own decision that Turkey as not a safe place to return miganst to - and promptly paid Turkey to take back migarnst, stating that the EU considered Turkey ws a safe plav,e

Then it suspended the Dublin Agreement which stated that an asylum seeker should do so in the first safe country - just torn up.

We have had an ECJ ruling that means we must pay uneployment benefit to Turks. Turkish langage is now officially recogned by the EU. Turkey altrady has tariff-free trade with the EU (something the EU is saying we would not enjoy outside the EU).
With visa-free travel, within Schengen Turkey has almost joined the EU in all but an official capacity.
And ont think any country's veto will stop Turjey joining.
All Turkey has to do is turn on the flow of migrants again - as it threatened to- and merkel will bow her knee to any of Turkey's demands. Alternatvely, Turkey only has to say it will leave NATO and it will be admitted as a full EU member the next day.
Small countries would be powerless to stop it. Their veto meaningless - strait-jaceted of they are a Eurozone country into compliamce and threatened in other ways if they are not.

So, LEAVE the EU and avoid opening the UK and our NHS, schools and social housing to Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Kosovo, Bosnia, Serbia and Turkey.

Because when our minimum wage will be £9.25 an hour and in some of these countries it's less than £8 a day - they will come to the UK, in their millions and we cannot stop them while we remain in the EU.

OK , and this impacts us here, how ?

The inflow of MENA migrants will continue. Angela Merkel will insist that all EU countries take their fair share of the approx 1 million per year that arrive.

Err, so we ignore all the people moving from war torn countries because we really don't care , even if we have had a hand in causing the wars there

A few more poorer Eastern European countries will be admitted to the EU, requiring increased contributions from the UK as funding

Only if they agree to the charter, and satisfy the conditions of membership

Turkey's accession will be fast-tracked as they hold the EU to ransom with the threat of opening the floodgates to all migrants from their shores

Really not likely, but see above

In the UK, public services will be put under even more pressure as more and more EU migrants and their families continue to move here

Perhaps we need to address issues with infrastructure in this country rather than blaming the EU for everything.