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12 million Turks say they'll come to the UK

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BritBrit · 22/05/2016 05:13

A survey conducted across all Turkish regions says that 16% (12 million) of the population say they want to come to the UK when the nation joins the EU. With membership talks set to start again in June should the UK be worried & will this influence your vote in the EU referendum

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/672563/Turkey-EU-Britain-exclusive-poll-crime-figures-Turks

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Palehorse · 23/05/2016 11:55

Turkey is very poor by comparison to any western nation
A very sweeping statement, by what standard are you judging?

Turkey has the 18th largest economy in the world by GDP, and is ranked by the UN in the Human Development Index as having 'High Human Development', slightly behind most western nations. Hardly 'Very Poor'

lljkk · 23/05/2016 17:38

I might consider relocating to Turkey after their accession to membership. Lovely climate, wonderful people, great food, fab architecture.

Maybe they should be scared of ME ( muhwaaaaahahahahahaha!! ) Wink

...seriously...
All the Turks I've ever met actually are lovely people who love their country. No scarier than the average German or Italian.

dollylucy · 23/05/2016 18:52
Smile Lljkk
fourmummy · 23/05/2016 18:59

How on earth do you know you missed your school place due to immigration?! I don't and I didn't say that I did. I was actually referencing this in conjunction with other quality of life issues, which are currently affecting me such as the riots in many European countries and the rise of far-right parties. These things worry me a lot, particularly if they begin to happen here, too. I have no idea if my child didn't get the school place due to immigration or some other reason, and I'm pretty sure that I'll never find out. That's life. However, this event affected, and continues to affect, my quality of life (along with the other things I've mentioned) to the extent that I may consider relocating.

Threepineapples · 23/05/2016 19:02

If it's that important, why haven't we already voted in a UK govt that would guarantee to veto Turkey's accession?

If we remain, we could still do that, especially since its potentially years away.

kinkytoes · 23/05/2016 20:48

I don't remember that being in anyone's manifesto Hmm

Limer · 23/05/2016 20:52

kinkytoes the EU isn't answerable to anyone.

kinkytoes · 23/05/2016 21:33

I was responding to ThreePineapples' post.

Threepineapples · 23/05/2016 21:58

Well that's kind of my point, kinky toes.

I don't think the UK electorate can be that bothered about Turkey otherwise we wouldn't have both our elected govt and opposition both supporting it.

You can't blame the EU for the UK's stance on this.

Palehorse · 23/05/2016 22:18

Limer why do you keep making up these outlandish claims?

Of course the EU is answerable, to it's electorate, to member states, to courts of law.

coffeeisnectar · 23/05/2016 22:36

I was watching a news report (can't remember which channel but in the last week) and it was asking what would happen to the Brits who have left the UK if we voted to leave the EU.

They did the report from a town in Spain where the Brits have pretty much taken over, there is only ONE Spanish business left and all the rest are run by British immigrants.

Can none of you see the irony in that? All that bleating about coming over here, taking our jobs/benefits etc but that's exactly what we've managed to do to a Spanish town where the locals have been priced out by Brits going over and buying homes and starting businesses. As the vast majority are older or retired there probably are no local schools now either.

But it seems to be fine for Brits to do it. There's always talk about how wonderful to start a new life in a new country and make a 'go of things'. Yet it's NOT ok for anyone to come here?

I remember the scaremongering when Romania joined the EU and it was claimed that millions would come here. I have no doubt some did, but hardly 'millions'.

Our NHS and care homes would collapse without the skilled workers from other countries.

kinkytoes · 23/05/2016 22:37

But our elected government was the only one promising an in/out referendum so you could also argue otherwise Limer.

Limer · 24/05/2016 07:35

Palehourse The EU is run by bureaucrats who have power without accountability.

It is not a true democracy, and is called a ‘pooled sovereignty’ – camouflage language.

The EU Parliament is not the body in charge of the EU, and it is not a parliament as we understand such a body to be. MEPs from all countries in the EU Parliament cannot propose legislation or even repeal it. They can only vote on proposals made by unelected commissioners. EU Parliament is therefore irrelevant and MEPs pointless.

Good point Kinkytoes and I firmly cling to the hope that the UK will vote to leave.

Coffee if the Spanish don't want the Brits retiring over there, too bad, because sadly they have no choice in the matter. Yes, it's very ironic. I'd favour all EU countries holding their own referendums, then they'll also be able to introduce selection processes for immigrants. Hopefully they'll follow our lead.

Palehorse · 24/05/2016 09:21

The EU is run by bureaucrats who have power without accountability

It's simply not true, just take two minutes to read something pertinent not on the UKIP website.

As i posted on another thread where the same fatuous statements were made , Eu commissioners are not permanent appointees. They serve 5 year terms. Those in Permanent positions are akin to our civil servants.
Commissioners propose legislation, i.e. they put forward legislation to be voted (or not) into law, to the directly elected eu parliament.
That legislation might have originated with member states, meps, or from the commissioners themselves who are acting on behalf of (or at the request of) member state governments.
So in effect the commissioners are answerable to their own national government, with the exception I suppose of the president, whose position is ratified by meps in the eu parliament.
Again, no one is unaccountable.

BreakingDad77 · 24/05/2016 10:47

Its ironic as these Tories weren't that long ago going on about the potential rivers of blood from the commonwealth immigration (who we are now supposedly going to do amazing trade deals with) now bleating about the tidal wave from Turkey.

(Which economically and socially is a very long way from even applying but don't let that get in the way of some fear Wink)

Chillyegg · 24/05/2016 11:01

Whether it's the Turks, the Muslims, the Pakis, the Blacks, the Jews, the Irish, the Hugenots, the Normans, the Saxons, the Romans or the Celts.
As someone who is a mixed asian turkish muslim using the term paki is fucking offensive.
Couldn't give a shit of your just trying to have a debate fair enough yes let's talk about whare the fuck the government are going to build schools and houses and help this countries infrastructure. But let's not use deliberately offensive words.
Also to "other" a whole fucking population as a giant succubous of leaching child producing benefit snatchers is fucking ridiculous. Yes let's talk about how the fuck we are going to solve the houseing crisis.
Lets talk about how we can manage immigration safely. But let's not use thinly veiled jibes.

Chillyegg · 24/05/2016 11:02

I was born in this country aswell before anyone you know assumes I crossed the channel to steal all your white privilege.

CaseInPoint · 24/05/2016 11:13

Yes, lovely progressive country Turkey. A country where honour killings are rife, the rate of women murdered has increased by 1400% in 7 years and 66% of police officers (as well as 50% of other professional groups) believe that 'the physical appearance and behaviours of women tempt men to rape'.
I was talking to a group of recent Turkish immigrants last week and they all said they left because turkey was becoming 'too islamic' under Erdogan, but you know if you fancy living under Sharia law then off you trot.

Chillyegg · 24/05/2016 11:21

Yep this is 1975. Cool.
Band around offensive terms use buzz words such as sharia law and maybe throw in jihad.can't have any of the use you know whispers muslims hear can we. But you know me and hubby have booked a week away in bodrum that'll be nice.

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CaseInPoint · 24/05/2016 11:48

Sharia law - buzzword, really.
Way to trivialise the discrimination millions of women live with everyday.

Chillyegg · 24/05/2016 12:09

I'm not a fucking moron for taking offence to the term paki you fucking idiots but that's been fucking skimmed over and ignored aswell hasn't it.

Chillyegg · 24/05/2016 12:10

I'm not at all trivialising female discrimination but in this context it's a buzzword.

MrSnow · 24/05/2016 12:12

I'm not a fucking moron for taking offence to the term paki you fucking idiots but that's been fucking skimmed over and ignored aswell hasn't it

I called you a moron for using the words "white privilege"