Anyone putting any plans in place in case we leave?

[ThroughThickAndThin01]

I've just checked the EU referendum current polls and it's looking very close at the moment.

I wondered if anyone is putting plans on hold, or will change any plans they have if we leave?

Personally, I am wracking my brains to think of anything which will directly affect me. Although I wonder if there will economical turmoil and whether to plan for an interest rate rise (our very high mortgage). Which will in turn affect Dhs business.

If we remain, I'd imagine it's just business as usual.

Anyone have any thoughts?

My sense of rejection doesn't come from my personal interactions, everyone is lovely to me actually. I have certainly never been made to feel unwelcome. (In fairness I work in a really international sector)

It comes from the pervasive anti-EU, anti-immigration climate that is not directed at specific individuals, but at a vague generalising idea of what "EU immigrants" are like. "Oh no I don't mean you, dear". Well yes, actually, you do...

I have a friend who goes on about immigrants so I just say 'you mean people like your Dad and my Mum?' and the conversation ends at that point.

The local consulate has kindly come back having spoken to the Embassy to ask for various documents so have just been taking pictures and emailed them all over. Thank goodness for technology!

Thats the problem with immigraton being used as the excuse for all the countries ills for years. People bang on about it and actually have no idea what they are talking about.

I heard a posh woman in a restaurant going on about how the problem was the immigrants just coming here for the benefits, with no intention to do any work.
Just straight out of the Daily Mail. And she was so self-righteous about it (no sign of her working - was midday in a Thai restaurant). Idiots like that will take us out of the EU.

Chalala I could have written your posts word by word.

Nobody has ever made me feel personally unwanted (well, the were was a school mum who complained her PFB was picking up the wrong accent, as there were so many foreigners in the class... but that was another classic case of "I do not mean people like you"..).

It is just the anti-immigration rethoric is so pervasive that I worry at some point it will spill in our daily lives.

I also worry that if the Leave camp wins, those expressing anti-immigration views and proposing anti-immigration policies will feel emboldened to go even further.

That is why I am not sure I would like to leave in a post-Brexit UK

Yes, the Daily Mail, LBC and others have a lot to answer for with misinforming people about immigration. The "no intention of working" thing, EU immigrants are under represented on the JSA statistics, and only a very slightly higher percentage 14% to 11% claim working tax credits.

Working tax credits are more of an indication that many of them are doing low-paid jobs that don't pay enough to live on. (Often the kind of jobs that British people don't want to do.)

But only 14% of the EU immigrant working population have them, thats around 266,000 people, not very many really.

11% of the UK workforce is about 3.3 million, there's more UK workers in low paid work than there are EU immigrants.

They cant throw us out like that I have been leaving in this country for 23 years worked hard pay taxes never claim benefit my husband apply for British through me, But I left too late and cant afford to apply too expensive So I hope few cases will be considered may be have to apply and pay the fee .
Hope they will remain it will be a big mess

Have I ever been made feeling unconfortable?

Directly no.

Indirectly, yes.
It's not just the rethorics about how immigrants are just lazy and should be sent away.
It's the fact that I've hear many comments about OTHERS that were either 'immigrants' or from asian origin etc... and how awful they are. If people are happy to talk behind people's back that way, then I assume they are happy to talk about me in that way too. Behind my back.
I've also have some 'interesting conversations' about immigrants with people saying that 'economic' migrants are awful, should be sent home etc. And when challenged about the fact that I, too, am in some ways an economic migrant, the asnwer is always 'Oh no not you. That's diffrent!'.
Well amybe it's different. maybe what they are syaing it's I dont welcome unkillers people, the ones who don;t speak good engoloish or whatever esle it might be (tbh I'm not sure what they meant by that).
but sure it does make me feel unconfortable and unwellcome.

You wouldn't believe the number of people that are surprised that I am worried about an exit vote and about the fact I might struggle to stay in the UK (that includes my PIL btw). Somehow there is a disconnection between the vote and its rethoric and what it means for people around (and who it will have consequences on too).
it's like some people who need benefits to get by that voted conservative and then got surprised when their benefits got reduced by the governement they elected. Somehow they were convinced it wouldnt affect them, the hard working people, only the benefit scroungers....
I think a lot of people react like this with this vote too. Yes it will get rid off (chose as appropriate to you) the benefot scroiungers/polish people/those who take spaces at our school etc but it won't affect Marie down the road because she has been there for a long time and really no one sees her as been an immigrant anymore (well that's called integartion btw)

Personally I'd be looking to emigrate. I'm from NI and literally the place would fall apart without EU funding. Well maybe not all of NI but where I live would. Plus both our jobs (and pretty much every job in the town) is covered by EU grants.

I'd sell the house so long as I could cover the mortgage and if I couldn't rent it out to cover the mortgage. Then I'd go anywhere that would take is and work my ar*e off. We've been looking into it and Malta looks like a good option for us. (We both work in financial outsourcing) as we don't have children it's an option for us. Plus we have Irish passports.

Hi playinggrown up I did not know NI is on the brexit exit they use Euro now .
Well , immigrants built this country 20 years ago there were some jobs like cleaning , catering etc.... that the Brits did not want to do who was doing its the immigrants now, they dont mind doing thoses job and blaming immigrants stealing jobs thats nonsense. As you said Happy they voted for conservative for a change and they cutting benefits now let them vote to exit i Cant wait to see whats gonna happen

Ireland will remain - because so many companies will move there in order to still be within the EU! I too have an Irish passport and in the process of getting DD and DH sorted too. Brexit will be a gift to Ireland, it has a highly educated population (although many overseas as lack of jobs), and is not adverse to offering tax breaks, has a surplus of modern offices (built during the mad rush for property) plus it's English speaking, which is why so many overseas companies like the UK. So if the UK is out of the running, in comes Ireland. My cousin has an export/import business and he's praying for the British to vote out as it will be boom time for him! I also know of two advertising executives who have already been shopping around Dublin for offices that they can swiftly move their rather large operations to within weeks of an out vote. The main issues are for Northern Ireland as it's still effectively tied to the British.

www.newstalk.com/KKR-considers-move-to-Dublin-if-the-UK-leaves-the-EU

In the short term, there's not much you can do really, unless you are very wealthy. Your pension is outside your control, if you had any shares you might look to off load some of them, I wouldn't choose this moment to change jobs or buy a house. If you want to remain in the EU, and you are not already doing it, you could try joining some active campaigning - especially in areas of the country where the argument is being lost. At least then you will not feel so helpless.

There has been a falling off in 'smaller' business sales - buying and selling or investing in businesses of the £1,000,000 to £10,000,000 size - which isn't really surprising given the level of market uncertainty, but which is a bit of a canary in the coal mine for jobs. Some posters seize on stories about a few large employers deciding to stay - but stories make the news precisely because they are surprising and counter-intuitive.

It all feels very peculiar, and not in a good way. The country is paying the price for 40 years of media and national governments blaming all our woes on immigration instead of on inadequate investment in public services and poor industrial planning. Nationalism is a very useful organising tool when you want to deflect criticism, as it has been in Europe for the last 300 years, but it's a horrible force to be reckoned with when it comes back to bite you on the bottom.

Apply for Irish passports for me and the dc
Hope dhs company doesn't fold
Hope the interest rates wont skyrocket
Hope the nhs doesn't lose most of its workforce (any.one who.has been in hospital recently will tell you.how many of its staff are immigrants)
Hope that we don't lose all credibility on the world stage

DH and I are discussing, we would wish to remain part of the EU so would try to move to Germany but whether that will be possible is another matter!

I will most probably lose my job (it's directly linked to the EU). I will also lose the automatic right to remain in the country where I have spent 20 years building a family and home. That's my whole adult life.

Just sitting tight until 24/6 and thinking through my options / plans for the future.

I feel incredibly sad that the life I have built can be turned on it's head by a decision I have no right to vote in.