Anyone putting any plans in place in case we leave?

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I've just checked the EU referendum current polls and it's looking very close at the moment.

I wondered if anyone is putting plans on hold, or will change any plans they have if we leave?

Personally, I am wracking my brains to think of anything which will directly affect me. Although I wonder if there will economical turmoil and whether to plan for an interest rate rise (our very high mortgage). Which will in turn affect Dhs business.

If we remain, I'd imagine it's just business as usual.

Anyone have any thoughts?

Want2bsupermum, its not only plumbers and electricians, it is doctors and nurses too. Under new EU rules, thousands of European doctors and nurses will be allowed to work in the UK without any checks on their qualifications and safety

Lessons are never learnt - how many more must die?

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10848645/German-doctor-will-not-be-extradited-to-UK-over-patient-death.html

thumb3lina I'm quite worried incase of a brexit, my company will be moving to Dublin if they were to exit. Does anyone know if i'm still eligible for an Irish passport if my grandparents were born in Northern Ireland?

Did your grandparents hold Irish passports? From what I understand (looked into it for my DH), if you had one Irish grandparent you should be able to claim Irish citizenship, but you'll need to check with the Irish authorities to be sure. Your DD will presumably be eligible for Irish citizenship once you've taken dual nationality.

The rights of UK citizens in Ireland and vice versa don't depend solely on the EU so it's likely that you'd have the right to live in Ireland anyway even without Irish citizenship - but if you qualify for one, then an Irish passport will guarantee that you retain your rights as an EU citizen :)

The problem with being in the EU is that we can not discriminate between these different countries with different standards.
And yet here in France there exists a body whose job is to examine the equivalence of professional and vocational qualifications obtained outside France. If would be interesting to know if this is a case of the UK not being allowed to do something, or simply not wanting to do something.

In any case, most plumbers and electricians are self-employed, so you can choose who you employ to do the work.

I checked - the qualifications mutual recognition rights apply across the EEA, not the EU.

Fair enough. I have an excellent Spanish vet.

The end result of EU immigration of plumbers and electricians is that you now can't find a plumber who knows how to deal with an old British home, you know one built in 1200 or so.

I had no idea that Polish tradesmen not knowing how to fix the plumbing in 13th century British houses was such a widespread problem.

I had no idea that Polish tradesmen not knowing how to fix the plumbing in 13th century British houses was such a widespread problem.

I think they just chucked it out on the street onto some poor passerby's head. Even I could do that

I had no idea that there was proper plumbing in 1300.. a long drop yes!

Spring, have you ever noticed that most of the claims you make can be disproved?

"360,000 EU immigrants" no, that is total immgration for last year, less than half is EU.

"My favourite EU immigrant family" fairly small numbers and you allow nothing for future payments, or any other data cause of your "vested interest" approach (more of that later).

" 350 million a week." Frequently disproved, by many posters.

"77 votes according to Peter Lilly" Actually 55 according to any other source and:

a: a far higher number of these occured after 2010 when a Conservative led government had political gain in this and

b: disprved by the fact the the UK is on the winning side of any EU vote about 89% of the time.

But you keep repeating all of them, again, and again, and again.

Your constant cries of vested interest for any source of information that counters your arguments ( of course the BBC is tainted by EU funding when 0.05 % of funding of a year has been paid to them over 3 years, the LSE source gets less than 5% of its fiunding.)

Your willingness to believe data from sources when it backs your point but to disparage it when it doesn't. You willingness to quoute partisan sources as truth but question far many more others.

Constant appeals to emotion "what price freedom" , citing total poplulations who might have access to the NHS and to come here.

Coming out with snide and goady posts "hahah you back Cameron" "Lurked you are an empy vessel" yet reporting any post you don't like. Your attack on another poster about mental health when they said they couldn't understand your posts was ridiculous.

Your arguments have no rigour, no backing, and no sense, hyperbole, emotional appeals is all you have.

At best we will be a step closer to understanding whether the estimates of immigration tell us what we need to know.

That takes the biscuit [biscuit[

You are entitled to disagree but I stand by what I said & the true scale of immigration won't be revealed by the NINO data. In his written evidence to the Public Admin & Constitutional Affairs Jonathan Portes said;

"there is a degree of confusion in the public debate about what the type of analysis described above will and will not show. It is important to note that this analysis will not in itself produce the “truth” about migration flows from the EU, for the reasons described above. It will however provide an additional and potentially important source of evidence and data. On the basis of this additional evidence, and no doubt other data sources and analysis to which ONS have access, ONS will need to decide whether or not (and if so how) to adjust the methodology by which they produce the IPS-based migration statistics, either retrospectively or in future."

data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/public-administration-and-constitutional-affairs-committee/eu-migration-statistics/written/32489.html

Spring, have you ever noticed that most of the claims you make can be disproved?

Sigh. Here we go again. Playing me and not the issue.

You ask for links - I give you links

You don't like the links that disprove your views - so you say they're wrong.

On and on and on and on and on....

You spend a lot of time on me. I should feel honoured.

It's a very good indicator that my well-researched well-evidenced original thought is hitting the target.

Alternatively you might be right (just humouring you here) - but at least it's kept you from bothering other good people while you're dealing with my crap

I find it quite incredible that Spring - from what she has said in her posts - is possibly old enough to be my mother.

The way she engages with people is so childish.

^...You are entitled to disagree but I stand by what I said & the true scale of immigration won't be revealed by the NINO data*

I am glad that you agree that the true scale of immigration from the EU to the UK is not known at present.

That fact alone negates the 'uncontrolled mass immigration from the EU is good for the country argument' - because, if you don't actually know how many have come here from the EU, then you cannot accurately assess they benefits/disbenefits they bring.

In the absence of reliable data, the consequent research reports must be treated with caution.

I married a Belgian as I will not be stripped of my European citizenship if push comes to shove.

I find it quite incredible that Spring - from what she has said in her posts - is possibly old enough to be my mother.

The way she engages with people is so childish

^^ Personal attack ^^

Yes, that's how many of the people who've PM'ed me are describing your antics in constantly attempting to derail discussion with incessant personal attacks on me.

Carry on - it's getting me a lot of support and losing you a whole lot more.

"It's a very good indicator that my well-researched well-evidenced original thought is hitting the target."

You provide nothing that stands up to any rigour, that was the point of my post.

You question any source that doesn't back yours but are quite happy to quote Daniel Hannan, who also uses data easy to disprove, in fact your any of your links have been fairly easy to question using good sources. But your only way of questioning anyone elses is "vested interest" and "EU funding" I think the BBC one was most comical of all.

I married a Belgian as I will not be stripped of my European citizenship if push comes to shove.

Bloody hell - that's a drastic action to take.

I just wear a Vote Leave badge

Yes, that's how many of the people who've PM'ed me are describing your antics in constantly attempting to derail discussion with incessant personal attacks on me.

Of course they have, love.

You are constantly rude and antagonistic towards anyone who disagrees with you, but when someone gives it back to you, you say "BULLIES!" and hit the report button.

When I was in primary school there was a kid in my class who used to constantly poke and annoy other children and taunt them when the teacher's back was turned, and whenever anybody retaliated he'd go running off to the teacher squealing, "Miiiiiiiiiiiiiss!"

Yeah. That's you. Only you're middle-aged.

She claimed to be supporting someone (doing a much more worthy degree than me) through university. In the absence of any proof that someone is lying, I assume they're telling the truth. Her posting style is much more indicative of someone not old enough to vote though, I agree.

You are constantly rude and antagonistic towards anyone who disagrees with you, but when someone gives it back to you, you say "BULLIES!" and hit the report button.

You don't know what I do in my spare time. You don't know what buttons I push - although I do seem to be having some success pushing yours -

When I was in primary school there was a kid in my class who used to constantly poke and annoy other children and taunt them when the teacher's back was turned, and whenever anybody retaliated he'd go running off to the teacher squealing, "Miiiiiiiiiiiiiss!"

I remember him. Went by the name of ButteredMuffin. Very good at dishing out crap -not so keen on takng it.

Yeah. That's you. Only you're middle-aged.

Oh ageist. Thats naughty - but I guess it just highlights your immaturity

Now, you could be doing something productive like studying for your Masters in EU Law, or revising for your exams so you're qualified to inflict more EU hell on us, or even cooking some £4 a bag pasta, instead of wasting your time poking me with a stick.

But I am sure the audience is enjoying it.

It's certainly giving them an idea of what fanatical REMAIN voters are like.

More sniping the remainers are getting twitchy.

Yeah, you're not much better, Anna.

She claimed to be supporting someone (doing a much more worthy degree than me) through university.

Most people are doing something mor eworthy than EU law. Accountancy with country dancing would be more worthy in my eyes

The absence of any proof that someone is lying, I assume they're telling the truth.

You young generation - you are so hung up on psuedo 'evidence-based' this and links to someone else's original thought. What;s wrong with the evidence that you see with your own eyes? Is it irrelevant until it's been sanctioned by an EU funded institution? Why don't you try thinking for yourselves? I sometime s wonder if you need a manual to open the fridge door .

Guess what - We managed before the internet when you had to do real research, not click bait.

Her posting style is much more indicative of someone not old enough to vote though, I agree.

Dear oh dear. I would give up your course. You don't seem mature enough to represent clients or give any legal advice