In,out,shake it all about,the EU ,what's best to vote.

[Daisyonthegreen]

Nothing on here,or am I wrong,I'm a newbie so be patient with me.
Anyhow here goes it's the Referendum on the European Union on the 23 June this year.
I'm voting Leave.
How's about you guys?

A load of links to the Daily Mail and Daily Express.
I post to these papers simply because the broadsheet Times and Telegraph are behind paywalls, so there is no point posting a link to something that many people on here are unable to access without payment.
I also post list the Guardian, which is not behind a paywall and many other 'open' access papers.

but the paucity of unbiased information is quite shocking.

There is plenty of factual information out there which you could base your decision.

Seeking our your own sources of data, weighing them up for veracity and determining how important the issues are to you, your family, our job, your country etc is the duty placed on us by living in a democracy.

Try the Office National Statistics for information about trade, migration, etc

Try the EU's own site. Try open.eu or some foreign newspapers like Die Welt to get heir perspective. Listen to the arguments surrounding the latest elections EU member countries.

Try some of the gv.uk sites for information about subjects that interest you.

Nobody is going to spoon feed you the information you need to make a fully informed and educated decision. It's only tribal voters who blindly do what others tell them to do.

I guess I am lucky I know my own mind,I know and have the gut instinct that this EU malarkey has spent it's course,I will joyfully with no qualms go to the polling booth on the 23rd June 2016 and vote Leave.
We are a wonderful country with wonderful people.
We will thrive,without doubt.

www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2016/01/16/eu-worse-than-useless-on-fisheries-john-tulloch

The EU has decimated our fishing industry not just like referenced in the article in Shetland but places like Appledore in North Devon and many more.
Our once proud Island Industry would thrive out of the " dead hand" of the pernicious European Union.

Spring Your supercilious tone is noted. I am not expecting to be 'spoon fed'; however, many of us with full time jobs, families, elderly parents etc., don't have time to read ONS statistics or may not know how to interpret them. We may barely have enough time to read UK news content, never mind foreign newspaper sites. It doesn't mean we're uninterested and on such an important issue we should not have to scavenge around for hard facts. Most of the people being given airtime on this issue (I listen to Radio 4 news in the car when I travel to/from work - it's all I have time for) seem to be focusing on two issues: migration and economics and I don't think I've heard a single person speak on the subject who hasn't 'spun' the so-called facts to suit their own argument or agenda. The Murdoch press has amply demonstrated its willingness to lie about Brexit (The Sun's lies about the queen, etc.)

As for sovereignty, we have a government that is massively self-interested and which has demonstrated its disdain for the poor, disabled and homeless and watched from the sidelines as wealth inequality has grown. I think a lot of people see the EU as a 'brake' that prevents governments from going too far. I can't imagine what those in power in this country would do if they were given a completely free rein.

twofingers we have a general election every few years. If a government goes too far, we can elect a different one. If the EU goes in a direction we don't like, there's nothing we can do about it, as the UK has so little influence there.

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/652262/The-deal-with-Turkey-makes-clear-the-risk-of-voting-to-stay-in-the-EU

Turkey is on the brink of EU membership.More reason to Leave.

Two fingers....
Have you never heard of the General Election?
WE take control,to abdicate control to unelected bureaucrats in the EU is dereliction of duty by us the electorate.

www.ibtimes.co.uk/why-women-should-vote-leave-eu-1548553

Very pertinent to women in particular.

I have been thinking long and hard about this a lot recently and I think j will vote to stay. If we leave, Scotland will go and then we'll be left as a small outpost, ridden with tories and totally beholden to eu trade tariffs that we will have no ability to negotiate. If it were the school playground, I'd much rather be with the crowd deciding what game to play and standing up to bullies (Putin I am looking at you) as a group rather than being the Dweeby runty one hanging around at the side of the field.

Should you wish to google
voteleavetakecontrol.org
there is the case for leave.
I shall be joyfully voting Leave on June 23rd.

I see that AfD took 21.5% of the vote in Saxony in today's German elections.

www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-election-idUSKCN0WE0ZQ

If you vote REMAIN don't expect the status quo to continue.

The Right is gaining support across Europe. New countries will join the EU, some of which have very different cultures to ours, some of which will require massive amounts of money to bring their infrastructure and social conditions up to the standard of the existing EU members states. Our small amount of influence within the EU diminishes as each new member joins and has voting rights and sends their representatives to Brussels to govern the EU. These are facts.

I am looking at what is best for the UK in the changing Europe. I think we are better off being able to govern ourselves.

Brexitential
Your analogy is ridiculous,you should have more faith in your country.Your hypothesis regards trade although rudimentary is frankly incorrect.
On leaving the EU (who needs us more than we need them )would be falling over themselves to trade with us.
On leaving we would negotiate our own trade deals and still deal with the EU.
That is a wonderful prospect.
May I respectfully refer you to my previous post and suggest you google
voteleavetakecontrol.org
where the case for leaving the EU can be viewed.

SpringintoAction
An interesting post,may I thank you.
I concur with your view and shall vote Leave quite happily.

Your analogy is ridiculous,you should have more faith in your country.

And there I was yelled at for daring to say the Leave camp try to turn this vote into a test of patriotism.

Daisy

It's only fair to point out that other views are available

www.strongerin.co.uk/#8wWHQ3VpxTXAFj2b.97

And I am pointing out that an analogy to a school playground is hardly appropriate.
I am well aware other views are available,that's why we debate here.

It's interesting that the thought of new member states is used as a reason to leave. So long as proper due process is applied to EU membership then every new member makes it stronger and therefore each member state is stronger.

So how do you explain the weaker countries currently in the EU? It seems that the "proper due process" for membership hasn't been applied consistently.

Rock,

There is certainly an argument that the membership of some countries should have been delayed or tiered. I think the example of Grease will live on for a long while and hopefully steer future decisions. In the long term it's ecconomic and political harmonisation that will reduce internal movement and build a stronger Europe.

www.express.co.uk/news/world/652222/EU-Danish-politicians-demand-referendum-voter-shift-Brussels

Denmark now want a referendum.Harmonisation is impossible amongst 27 countries,one size does not fit all.Strength is in individual countries trading with each other ,trading with the rest of the world, being courteous to each other BUT having their own sovereignty.
This ghastly experiment is now defunct,beaureacracy killed it.

The Germans have made their feelings be heard in the polling booth.

Vertigo
Quite!

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/12191594/Justice-minister-David-Cameron-can-only-deliver-promise-to-cut-migration-by-leaving-the-EU.html

Well worth reading.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/12/alastair-campbell-brexit-referendum-media-bias?CMP=fb_gu

Well worth reading.