Report neighbour committing benefit fraud

[Goldengoose1977]

Hi, I believe a neighbour is committing benefit fraud. She has a teenaged son that has been taken out from school due to 'ADHD' because he can't sit still in class.(Does however sit all day on his console). She is claiming DLA for him and also carers allowance. She does not need to give him any extra attention at all, He can dress, feed and wash himself like as well as any other teenaged boy. She also works 3 days a week so isn't at home all day anyway, So how can she be claiming to be a carer when she does nowt extra? Haven't decided whether to report or not, interested in other people's views on this. Thanks

"There are so many people like your neighbour" No, there are not. I support parents all the way tribunals literally in despair trying to get the right needs met for their children. It is NOT the walk in the park easy cash route you allude to.

You quite clearly don’t know what it’s like to live with a child with additional needs such as ‘ADHD’ (a genuine condition that is not easily diagnosed for shits and giggles) and unless you have a secret camera watching her and her child 24/7 then how would you know she doesn’t give him any extra attention? You do also know that the diagnosis process for ADHD in children (and adults) is extremely long winded and not something she would have chosen lightly just for a couple of extra quid a month?
Also how can you be 100% certain that her partner isn’t paying tax whilst working ‘cash in hand’? There are plenty of jobs out there (mine included) in which you are paid cash into your hands after PAYE/NI contributions have been accounted for and all is legal and above board. You’ve clearly got some sort of torch for him because you even said ‘but he hasn’t falsified… etc’ when he will have most likely gone through the process with them both too if he is living under the same roof so will be committing the same ‘fraud’ as she is.
Unless you have actually sat and looked through your neighbours claim awards, bank statements, doctors letters, extensive paperwork and forms and all the hoops she has had to jump through to be able to claim DLA etc then you have no right to go reporting anything to anyone and should keep your judgemental, narrow minded, interfering and bitchy comments to yourself.

That’s shocking claiming for 3 people then leaving them to look after each other. Probably most on here will not agree but at the end of the day false claims are costing the country a fortune. The system needs a total review.

You forgot about the lashes,and brows, tut tut.

It never ceases to amaze me how posters know exact details of other people's finances. I never disclose any of my financial details to others or I may end up getting them plastered over the internet by an unwelcome acquaintance.

the amount of people who have no idea, how to hold their counsel, is astonishing. People telling all and sundry, how they are claiming this, and that. I never seem to encounter people in rl like that, though.

If you report then she'll never know it was you.

I suppose they'll have to investigate it right?

And if it turns out you're wrong then maybe keep your nose to yourself.

I do hate benefit cheats I really do, especially ones that brag. It pisses me off arseholes who lie to cheat the system and then rob from the people who actually need it.

But you could be wrong you know! You have to make sure your facts are correct.

''@Hellohelga · Today 20:21
There are so many people like your neighbour''

Where is the evidence for your claim?

The fact that the right wing press and some politicians like to push the rhetoric that benefit claimants are lying scroungers does not mean that what they are saying is true...

This thread is an object lesson never to take neighbours into your confidence about being on benefit. It doesnt matter how genuine your claim may be, there are always whingers and snitches. As a single childfree I heavily subsidise families. I would not snitch on one, even if I thought they were making a fraudulent claim. You can never know the reality of another person's circumstances.

Lots of people on here for a start talk about their neighbour / SIL / friend claiming and don’t even need it. Also people I know IRL. Also the stats about how many claimants there are.

Falsifying your tax returns is much easier and has just as much (possibly a lot more) impact on the public purse as claiming carer's allowance you aren't entitled to.

Why have you got it in for her and not him?

She will have to show proof of his conditions to DLA and carers. That proof will involve Drs letters, paediatric appointments, any other medical records. Stop being a nosy busybody and mind your fucking business!! If she’s been able to provide enough evidence to get high rate DLA and carers allowance then I’m sure she’s entitled to it!!!

Neither falsifying tax returns or falsely claiming carers benefits is honest. It’s about self respect and honesty.
I wouldn’t report as I think they would suspect everyone they told and the system needs to change to address the issues in false claims, however I wouldn’t have much respect for them or others who falsely claiming. It’s good to know you work hard and support those who genuinely need that extra help.

There is still room to manipulate the system that’s the problem.

Report. I work f*cking hard and am taxed to the hilt, I’d like my tax money to be spent on the elderly and carers who need it.

In response to your 'think you'll get more' comment, I do not claim.any benefits whatsoever. I work for every penny I get.

Well done. You and A LOT of other people work for 'every penny they get'

FFS

It's a poor do when you're jealous of a family for having a child with ADHD ☹️

Which is almost always said by someone who has no experience of claiming DLA for a disabled child.

If I tried to say that my child was more severe than he was, the evidence provided wouldn't back that up and it would be dismissed because the evidence has to back up what is said on the forms.

Of course, that's not to mention the times when a child should have HRC/HRM but it has to go all the way to tribunal before it is finally awarded.

It isn't easy.

It isn’t shocking as you can only claim for one person, so that supposed person claiming for three would need two fake identities that included a NI number etc.

As part of a charity I volunteer for, I help people fill in DLA and PIP forms. I can't remember the last time the award was different from what I expected, or someone was turned down. There definitely is a "technique" to the form filling. So even though it's based on information in reports from professionals, there's still a lot of reliance on how you answer the questions on the form.

In my experience, you can most definitely answer the questions on the forms in ways that are more likely to get a higher award. And you can build up evidence of issues that are exaggerated, if you're determined enough.

However, it's much more common that people miss out on DLA or PIP they should get because of poor form filling technique or not knowing what evidence to gather and submit. They are complicated forms and often the evidence you need comes from NHS appointments that people wait a very long time, even years, for.

So report away. If they get reassessed for the award and really were lying, they will get found out. But as PP have said, there is clearly evidence to support the claim so the chance that it's fraud is very low.

So I work - not for every penny I get - I get pip.

by your sentence I shouldn’t get it.

You have made some good points in your post. Is it any wonder that people are looking for help to fill in these lengthy, complicated forms, when they make it so, that if you do not use certain language, words, then a person could miss out altogether on being awarded anything. The Government has made the process as difficult as they can. Why is that? And yes, the whole shoddy system should be overhauled, it is barely fit for purpose.

Can’t some people (not all) who get pip also work. A colleague told me I’m cutting my hours as I’m getting pip so why work full time when I don’t need to. So is that not manipulating the system!
You have to accept that some abuse the system. If you entitled to benefits fine but not everyone who gets it is genuine. If that was the case the government wouldn’t be looking for ways to cut out the fake claims.

It is not easy to claim PIP, and the fraud rate is very low. You can look it up, if you are interested. Your colleague having to cut her hours, is not manipulating the system, I am not sure how you came to that conclusion. If she was not meeting the threshold for PIP, then she would not be getting it.

I suppose nothing is easy to prove