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Ethical dilemmas

Should I have said anything?

129 replies

ThatCoralKoala · 11/07/2025 15:35

I took my child to a summer party and was sat talking to her with my little one on my shoulder (no raised voices and no crying or anything). I was telling her to pass me her sweet before she ran off dancing or to eat it first because they’d asked the children not to eat sweets while dancing. A volunteer (a woman in her 60s) came up behind me and grabbed my daughter’s arm and said “come dance with me”. I explained I had the situation under control and she just wanted to play while eating. She said “give the sweet to mummy” but when I again explained I have it under control myself she took her to the dance floor and began waving her arms around. My daughter is 2 for reference. In the end I had to go over and take my daughter away and ignore the woman until she left. The party overall was lovey but I couldn’t stop thinking about it and how upset I was that she’d grabbed my daughter without her or my consent. I don’t doubt that she meant well but it didn’t make it right and I don’t want other parents feeling uncomfortable too. I sent the venue a message and asked could they speak to the volunteer and let her know that touching children without parent consent is too far. They’ve replied to say she is mortified, won’t volunteer again and because she’s a key part of organising that they won’t do events again. I feel awful now that the children’s events won’t be run again and my intention was only to ensure the volunteer didn’t overstep boundaries in future unintentionally

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Katherine9 · 12/07/2025 07:22

TheIceBear · 12/07/2025 04:00

Sounds like you think your actions were the right thing to do anyway regardless of what anyone here says.

Exactly this! So I don’t understand the post at all, the OP already got what she wanted, what more is there to gain?

iseethembloom · 12/07/2025 12:37

reversegear · 11/07/2025 16:31

What did I just read? You’ve just totally overreacted and you emailed the venue? Are you really ok? Do you behave like this on every situation that crops up?

You could have just said to her at the time no thanks and got your daughter back off the dance floor and been a bit more assertive in the moment, Instead you’ve just massively upset someone who clearly meant well.

Her age is irrelevant, and you’ve just ruined the event for everyone.

‘Been a bit more assertive in the moment’ gets to the heart of the matter, rather than being a keyboard warrior after the event.

i feel so sorry for the volunteer.

CremeEggsForBreakfast · 12/07/2025 16:32

MaggiesShadow · 11/07/2025 20:47

Why should she be professional? She's not being paid for this, she's a volunteer. Or was, until OP!

Implying that she is touching children without consent is incredibly sinister.

I didn't mean the volunteer was unprofessional. She has no obligation to continue to give her time. I meant the organisation's response was unprofessional. It's inappropriate to guilt-trip your customer/clients like that.

I think the OP was unreasonable but she is not the reason the woman left her role and she's certainly not the reason all future events have been called off. The response to her feedback shouldn't make her feel like she is.

CremeEggsForBreakfast · 12/07/2025 16:40

saraclara · 11/07/2025 20:41

I can't quite believe this is true. I just don't buy the response to the email was "she's so embarrassed she's quit and we won't run anything ever again".
If true, it's very unprofessional

If true, she doesn't have to be professional, in the sense of sticking with the role. This isn't her job. She's not paid, she's not on a contract. She doesn't have to give up her time and energy for nothing, only to find herself accused of 'touching' a child.

I have two volunteer gigs. I'm about to walk away from one of them, because there are people there who make it unpleasant (in a much less devastating way). I don't have to give up my time and commit to something that's not positive for me. I spent 40 years committed to a job and being professional. I don't have to commit to anything any more, if it doesn't work for me.

Edited

I meant the organisation were unprofessional for suggesting OP was responsible the volunteer quitting and all future events being cancelled. Whether or not the info was relayed to the volunteer and how that was done is nothing to do with OP and neither is the volunteer's response.

Volunteers may not be paid but that doesn't mean they don't have responsibilities and contracts. It's rarely as simple as just not turning up for shifts. So I'd say the volunteer absolutely does have to remain professional - if only to protect the reputation of herself and the organisation. But in this instance, the professionalism of the volunteer was never in question.

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