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Cockroach Cafe - Autumn

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rookiemere · 13/09/2026 08:06

A new thread but the same themes, for those of us going through the ongoing challenges of supporting elderly DPs and relatives.
No judgement just support and virtual gins or tea on tap depending on your preferences.

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MysterOfwomanY · 01/10/2026 20:51

@glasswings My condolences.

Still have a bad feeling about my EP (elderly person). She's not confused but it's like she's running on expired batteries. She's no longer Zimmer framing - the carers use a wheeled commode to get her to the starlight and downstairs, her (technically my) wheelchair to get her other living room chair.
She may well have been asleep when we arrived today and certainly conked out later while we were there, which is something she hasn't done before.

See, here's the thing I didn't say here before.
Her brother - years ago now - experienced a similar sudden determination: weakness leading to inability to get himself around, sleeping all the time. His wife was very alarmed and tried (this was the very depths of COVID times) to get the GP out, but a few days later (can't remember if the GP had actually visited) he just didn't wake up one day.
50% shared DNA.

ANYWAY

I'm going to write a letter to her GP (of course no email address on their website). I may not be convinced anything can be done, but I am not qualified to make that call. Who knows, it may just be her meds need rejigging or ... ¯\(-:-)/¯

A distinct feeling of dread is seeping through me, but that could just be the coffee.

Eclipsing · 01/10/2026 21:08

When I've written to my DMs GP, I've spoken first to the practice manager who told me how to address the letter to make sure that the GP received it. In some practices, all incoming mail is read first by someone other than the GP and can end up being filed without reaching the person for whom it was intended.

ElderlyDilemmas · 01/10/2026 21:55

That;s a good idea, my parents GP doesn’t have email contact either (I guess it’s not secure enough for GDPR) and you can only use the online system if you are registered there too so I always have to phone them, I have thought about writing. At least they answer the phone, unlike ours.

Laughingravy · 01/10/2026 23:27

Thanks for all the responses.
We and all the HCP don’t really know whether his back will recover to any degree. I doubt he’ll regain all of what little mobility he had, so that alone will mean he can’t live semi-independently. And even if he gets back to where he was the manager at the sheltered housing explained they have evacuate not stay put emergency plans. So all the residents are expected to self-evacuate. Some inc DF are marked as PEP (spelling?) and it is accepted that will be slower. As she said even if he got out - he has his own fire exit - he’s near blind and will struggle to find his way to safety once outside. There are no staff overnight. He managed to get out under his own steam six months ago during an alarm test but his eyesight and mobility have worsened since even before this latest fall. In any case in the circumstances they will insist he does the evacuation test again if her returns.
So it’s very likely he’ll not have the choice of going back to the flat and next time I speak to the OT I’ll take some pleasure in pointing that out.

FinallyHere · 02/10/2026 09:01

Thinking of you and your family @glasswings

FinallyHere · 02/10/2026 09:08

I’m so sorry @Laughingravythere is enough ugh to deal without unhelpful input from HCP, isn’t there. So much uncertainty and resistance to care homes when it sounds as if your elderly person could really do with care

hope you get it sorted. A week or two ‘respite’ in a home might be a way to sell the idea in the hope that it turns out to be the right kind of environment. Hope it goes well .

GnomeDePlume · 02/10/2026 10:36

@glasswings 💐I'm glad it was peaceful in the end.

MysterOfwomanY · 02/10/2026 16:01

@Eclipsing darn it, saw this after I'd posted it. Well, we'll see. It was more of a "let's cover all bases" move anyway.

Had a lovely day with a friend of the family who's just lost his wife (they were on "auntie and uncle" terms with me). It meant a lot to hear more about her life and to be able to talk about my Dad and Mum with someone who knew them both when they were young (early and bitter divorce...).
Mid 80s but in tremendously good nick. If anything is a spectrum, age is!

Exhaustedpickle · 02/10/2026 16:43

@glasswings I'm sorry for your loss. It is good to hear that previous tensions have melted away.

@Laughingravy how frustrating! A nurse in the rehab hospital told my Mum that she could "just leave the care home if she didn't like it" just before she moved in - and go where?! I wish they would think before they speak! I hope your Dad can come around and see the sense of moving and won't put up too many more barriers.

Exhaustedpickle · 02/10/2026 16:46

@MysterOfwomanY I called my DM's GP surgery and asked for a call back from her doctor. She did call me and I was able to explain some things that got her help so maybe you could try that?

MysterOfwomanY · 02/10/2026 17:32

Exhaustedpickle · 02/10/2026 16:46

@MysterOfwomanY I called my DM's GP surgery and asked for a call back from her doctor. She did call me and I was able to explain some things that got her help so maybe you could try that?

I would do that if this was a protracted case of not being seen for something treatable, where the patient really isn't up to advocating for themselves.

Which is very often the case on this thread :/

This is (well - famous last words...) a one off - normally my ER is entirely on top of her numerous medical affairs. I think most likely there is no diagnosis or treatment... I felt I had to at least ask someone qualified to check that, though.

MysterOfwomanY · 03/10/2026 19:51

Spoke too soon, got a call this morning from ER - sight gone in one eye.

So we've spent most of today in her local hospital and we're still there. Looks like she'll be admitted.

I did go look she's old and frail and hospitals are noisy and full of bugs, are you sure? but they said, yeah.
Current theory is there's infection rampaging up from her leg ulcers to more distant corners of the body and causing all manner of bad stuff.

My DH has been an absolute star, driving, ensuring we stay fed.

The funny thing was that one of the HCPs we met today actually lives about a mile from us - God, what a horrific commute. Hope she has a decent car.

Exhaustedpickle · 04/10/2026 11:23

Sorry to hear that, I hope your ER recovers well. Good luck with the hospital schlep!

Laughingravy · 04/10/2026 14:19

Thanks again for the responses.
We still haven't got an update on HCPs plans for DF or where they're up to with his back. I haven't visited him this weekend because I have a cold.

The plan is to at least get him into a home for respite and hopefully he'll take to it. We're all of a mind he'll be just fine. He gets on with the other residents at the sheltered house block but doesn't socialise with them beyond them eating together. He spends all his days in front of the TV. He does have a thing about space, though he doesn't really use it at such, and at the nicest home we've seen the difference between a big room or small is over £700 a week!!

So I'll head over tomorrow to see him and maybe check out another possible place. DB has been pretty good considering he lives 200 miles away but he's now got stuck on the idea of checking out as many homes as possible, just in case there's one that's nice and not £1800 a week.

Isitsticky · 04/10/2026 16:02

Let him crack on, Laughingravy. DM is in a CH run by a not for profit company. It was originally chosen for DF by his SW. She did us such a favour as we didn't know they existed.

Bweave · 04/10/2026 17:26

I would really appreciate some advice from people who look after elderly parents, because I am finding my situation incredibly stressful and I don't really know where I stand anymore.

I live with my elderly mother, and I have around five years of observations of changes in her behaviour. I have become increasingly concerned that something isn't right, although there is still no diagnosis and I am not a medical professional.

The things I notice aren't primarily straightforward memory problems. They are more things like poor comprehension, poor judgement, difficulty planning or organising things, extreme rigidity, difficulty adapting when something doesn't go according to plan, disproportionate anxiety or anger, suspiciousness, and some very unusual behaviours around the house.

There have been many individual incidents over the years. Some of them sound small when taken on their own, but there are so many of them now that I find it very difficult to dismiss them as simply being "quirky" or getting older.

I also find that making plans with her can be incredibly difficult. Something can be discussed quite clearly, but then she seems to have understood something completely different.

For example, on Friday I was telling her that I was working late and that it would probably be 10 or 11 o'clock before I got home. She somehow thought I was talking about a bus on Saturday morning. I wasn't talking about a bus at all.

A few weeks ago she travelled into town by bus on her own. She stayed there for most of the day, for around 7 or 8 hours, and didn't really stop for a proper lunch or tea. On the way home she became travel sick.
Since then she has become apprehensive about travelling into town on her own and has wanted me to accompany her.

Until today, I had put myself in the position of being willing to go into town with her. I don't drive, I have my own work and responsibilities, and I don't have much free time, but I thought perhaps this was something I would have to start helping with.

Today really brought home to me how stressful that could become.
We had planned to go into Galway city. This morning she was rushing around and wanting to leave approximately 50 minutes before we actually needed to leave, despite the bus stop being about a 15-minute walk away.

Then there were difficulties around having lunch and trying to make a straightforward plan for the day.
On the way home, our bus was due at 4pm. At about 3:45pm, a bus displaying the name of our destination and the correct route came past. It appeared to be out of service. My mother immediately became extremely anxious and tried to get onto the bus. The driver was actually beckoning her not to board it.

She seemed to think that our bus was leaving early. I was trying to explain that it wasn't our bus and that we simply needed to continue to the bus stop and wait for the 4pm bus.

It became incredibly stressful.
Then there are things like today when she was wearing sunglasses on the bus despite it being a very dull, overcast and drizzly day. I know that in isolation that means absolutely nothing, but when you are living with someone and seeing years of unusual behaviours, you notice these things.

The problem is that I don't know what I am supposed to do with any of this.
She can still do some familiar things. She can manage certain routines and can appear perfectly okay to other people. But I am the person who is there when something unexpected happens, when a plan has to be made, when something needs to be interpreted, when there is a practical problem or when she becomes confused about what has actually been said.

And I am finding myself increasingly having to support, explain, redirect, reassure and adapt around her.
I don't want to take away her independence. I don't want to treat her like a child. I don't want to assume she has dementia when I don't have a diagnosis.
But I also can't pretend that I am not seeing what I am seeing.

I feel as though I am gradually being pushed into a caring/support role without anyone actually acknowledging that this is happening. There are no clear supports in place for her, and there is no support for me either.

Today has left me completely exhausted and honestly quite upset.
Has anyone else found themselves in this position, where an elderly parent can still manage familiar things but becomes increasingly difficult?

I suspect the possibility of dementia but nobody is listening to me.. There is also dishibititions from her. I can't leave a bag in the same room as her and go to the toilet or I will come back and she has her head and hands in my bag just snooping. She is like a kleptomatic toddler. There is just so much happening where I suspect dementia nobody will listen to me. She can cope somewhat ok ish sometimes but then other times she can be so so so very odd.
To make it worse I was chatting on a local group anon and someone explained medical professionals are useless. They want someone to be proactive and on board with their own health but if someone has dementia sometimes they have no awareness into it and it's the last thing thst they do and often this kind of stuff goes on for years until theirs a crisis point and only then is a diagnosis happen.

MittensTheKittens · 04/10/2026 17:59

@Bweave this sounds very familiar.

In theory my mum's memory seems fine, I spoke to her on Friday and told her what me and my friend had been up to earlier in the week, I mentioned it again today and she remembered and we discussed it in more detail.
She could probably tell you who the prime minister is and she can write a shopping list and tick stuff off as she goes along.
But her 'problem solving' has gone AWOL.

countrygirl99 · 04/10/2026 18:04

It was decision making that went AWOL first with mum. That and following a set of instructions.

Bweave · 04/10/2026 18:11

countrygirl99 · 04/10/2026 18:04

It was decision making that went AWOL first with mum. That and following a set of instructions.

Do you have a dementia diagnosis for your mum?

Yeah, I really suspect dementia. Things can get so bad at times from my mother. Just so much crazy and stuff thst doesn't make sense and things just not right.

It is extremely challenging and I suspect dementia. A cognitive impairment. But everyone else is writing off my concerns until maybe it's more advanced or pronounced or mimic more of an advanced dementia perhaps. I don't know.

Eclipsing · 04/10/2026 20:16

Sorry to hear about the situation you're in, @Bweave .

Will your mum see a HCP? She should have a health screen (with various blood tests), those won't show dementia but will help to rule out (or rule in) other health problems which might be amenable to treatment.

Does she say her hearing is OK? I'd encourage her to get a hearing test - I'm certain that some of the things that my mum "forgets" are things that she never actually heard in the first place.

How's her vision? Could she have an eye problem that means that she's more easily dazzled, hence the dark glasses? Will she go to the optician for a check?

I don't think that someone "explained" that medical professionals are useless - that's an opinion, not a fact!

As you live with her, do you have any downtime yourself? Are you officially her carer? Are there are organisations like carers groups where you live?

Ritaskitchen · 04/10/2026 20:34

@Bweavewe gave just been through the diagnostic pathway with DF. Initially it was thought he had depression but i pushed to explore more because of some strange behaviors.
I agree on @Eclipsing the first stage seems to be blood tests to rule out deficiencies eg B12
I asked for a referral to the memory clinic as I attended a GP appointment with DF
First it was a CT scan. We never actually got to the memory clinic because the CT scan was very clear. The GP gave the news and also prescribed some dementia medication.
Otherwise support is sort of low. A lady came round from the living w dementia team. Did a sort of screening chat and signposted things DF could go to. They will be back in contact in 6 weeks
We have applied for attendance allowance- awaiting the results of that.
If AA is granted the GP should provide a certificate and then a council tax exemption can be applied for.
But that’s it really.

countrygirl99 · 04/10/2026 21:02

Bweave · 04/10/2026 18:11

Do you have a dementia diagnosis for your mum?

Yeah, I really suspect dementia. Things can get so bad at times from my mother. Just so much crazy and stuff thst doesn't make sense and things just not right.

It is extremely challenging and I suspect dementia. A cognitive impairment. But everyone else is writing off my concerns until maybe it's more advanced or pronounced or mimic more of an advanced dementia perhaps. I don't know.

Yes. Mum was diagnosed in 2021. It had been obvious to us for a few years that there was something going on but she resisted seeing the GP and finally went because she thought it would prove us wrong. By then the memory failure had kicked in so she immediately forgot she'd seen the doctor, a consultant and had a brain scan.

GnomeDePlume · 05/10/2026 07:18

For DM the dementia diagnosis and capacity assessment came together and very late in the day.

@Bweave 💐I think all you can do is keep raising it to HCPs. Eventually someone will pick it up. Though this could take a crisis.

For DMIL this crisis came with DFIL dying suddenly.

It does sound like you are caught in the boiling frog scenario except that you know the heat is rising.

bigdogpaws · 05/10/2026 08:11

@Bweave A lot of what you describe sounds a lot like my DM, who has alzheimers and vascular dementia. She was diagnosed relatively recently but looking back her behaviour had been changing, and her cognitive abilities declining, over at least 5 years. In our case it was when DF became seriously ill that I realised how bad things were and how little she could do without help.

Her actual memory is still pretty sharp- she can remember things she did in recently as well as years ago and can usually remember exactly where she put things etc. She usually has a reasonable idea of what time it is (something she was asked in her GP assessment). But she has very poor processing skills so for example although she might remember that we need to leave at 10am to go to an appointment and know that it's now 9.30am she will seem surprised that I tell her she needs to be getting ready to go.

It's interesting that you mention her not eating when she was out all day on her own, and difficulties with lunch when you were with her. My DM (who had always previously eaten regularly and had a good appetite) needs to be reminded to eat and is easily distracted when she is eating and will often try to get up and do something else. She also finds it hard to think about what she might want to eat so if she is just asked what she would like she will say she's not hungry- I've realised she can't manage with more than 2 options and even then the answer is usually 'whatever you're having'. She also can't manage the processing involved in making even a simple meal. She was clearly trying to cover this up for a long time and would lie about what she'd eaten (I did her shopping so knew what she had in, she'd tell me most days she had a bacon sandwich for lunch and it was lovely but I'd find all the bacon and bread untouched). She had a few 'unexplained' issues that I am now sure were down to not having eaten all day.

I would recommend speaking to her GP as soon as you can. If the situation is the same as where I am (North of England) there is quite a long wait for a specialist assessment and referral for that only happens after the GP has run a lot of tests to rule out (or in) other possible causes. There is a lot of useful information on the dementia UK website.

I'd also advise you to be as honest as you can about what care and help you can provide and what could be outsourced. As a pp mentioned, dementia care really is like 'boiling a frog' if you're not careful and what started as helping a parent with a few admin tasks and taking them to a few appointments can very quickly become an expectation that you will be available 24/7.

Dormit · 05/10/2026 08:50

Does anyone have any advice for getting my mum to go out and do social things that don’t involve me? We’ve spoken about it several times but she makes no attempt to actually do it. There’s various things going on locally but she pulls a face. I’m taking her shopping this week but it’s a case of getting an uber, a train and two trams just to get there with her in a wheelchair so it will be hard work. She’s not getting out and about much unless to GP appointments or if my sister deigns to visit and takes her to the garden centre. She’s needs a social life to help her mental health but she’s so reluctant. She sees one friend every couple of weeks and that’s it.

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