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Elderly parents

FIL caught drink driving

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CrazyGoatLady · 27/12/2025 14:28

FIL (73) drove home from the pub on Christmas Eve, got pulled over for speeding and was over the limit. Said he'd barely had anything to drink, but his brother said he had 6 pints over around 4hrs so he must have been well over. It was about a 5 mile drive home, but on a stretch of A road that often has patrols on it. Fool!

We've had rows over it before and I've said if he ever did it with DC in the car I'd shop him myself. Nobody else was with him on this occasion.

FIL now wants us to help him pay for a good solicitor as he is going to opt for court to try and avoid a ban, as GMIL is very elderly, losing it a bit, and FIL is very involved with her care, he drives over to her house most days. I do not want to give him a penny, as he's been drink driving for years and I hate his attitude, nanny state, they just want your money, I'm a careful driver, it's fine, blah blah. DH is angry with him, but wavering for GMIL's sake.

If DH wants to help I can't stop him, but I don't want him using our joint/family funds to help him weasel his way out, and I feel like he should have thought of his elderly mother before getting in the car after 6 pints. Am I being mean here?

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GinaandGin · 27/12/2025 16:01

Itsmetheflamingo · 27/12/2025 15:58

?? How does that work, surely reporting it online doesn’t lead to a fast enough response to arrest someone who is currently driving under a mile? Ie 10 minutes worth of driving

Statiscally you are most likely to get into an accident a mile from your house

PlateyKatey · 27/12/2025 16:01

I wouldn’t be supporting him.
I know several people who have got out of a ban though, so it’s not guaranteed he wouldn’t overturn it in court.

ChristmasMantleStatue · 27/12/2025 16:02

Itsmetheflamingo · 27/12/2025 15:58

?? How does that work, surely reporting it online doesn’t lead to a fast enough response to arrest someone who is currently driving under a mile? Ie 10 minutes worth of driving

No indeed, but it meant his licence got taken away again. I don't know about police response times where you are, but it wasn't going to lead to anything immediately either.

GinaandGin · 27/12/2025 16:04

Statiscally you are most likely to get into an accident a mile from your house
Most police vehicles have anpr so it may be a long shot that they get caught but it slightly increases the chances

Zanatdy · 27/12/2025 16:04

Absolutely no way i’d give him a penny of my money. 6 pints? He is lucky he didn’t kill someone and facing the rest of his days in prison. He will get banned and other people will end up caring for his mother.

GinaandGin · 27/12/2025 16:06

Summertimesadnessishere · 27/12/2025 15:45

I agree with this. You all have a moral responsibility to other road users to report him and tell him with no hesitation he is putting other peoples lives in danger. By doing nothing you standing back and literally waiting for an accident to happen. I feel sorry for the people reading this who know first hand the misery these people cause by taking no responsibility whatsoever. In my view anyone that drives under the influence of alcohol or drugs should have more than a ban. If they hit any other vehical it should be attempted murder as you knowingly set out to do this. It’s not even a worry for these people. That has to change. I hope he gets the consequences. If my hb was supporting behaviour that encourages drink driving I’d really struggle to be any part of being with him- it crosses such a big line.

Edited

Well said
People need to speak up and report

MikeRafone · 27/12/2025 16:06

Better off spend the money ( for solicitor) on weekly uber to GMIL house for her care

fatphalange · 27/12/2025 16:06

I’d rather set fire to the money than waste it on this arrogant sod. Same outcome either way.
Tell him to download Uber.

Itsmetheflamingo · 27/12/2025 16:08

ChristmasMantleStatue · 27/12/2025 16:02

No indeed, but it meant his licence got taken away again. I don't know about police response times where you are, but it wasn't going to lead to anything immediately either.

But you can’t take someone’s license away for an allegation of drunk driving, they need to be caught driving and a sample taken?

MikeRafone · 27/12/2025 16:09

MissMoneyFairy · 27/12/2025 14:34

Don't give him a penny, he shouldn't be driving, he can buy s bike instead.

An electric bike would be cheaper than his car insurance after his ban is up

ChristmasMantleStatue · 27/12/2025 16:10

I wrote an online report saying that he was seen drink driving, with the dates and that he had a medical diagnosis of macular degeneration as well as a recent history of strokes. He was also 96 at the time.

Okay?:

PermanentTemporary · 27/12/2025 16:11

Your Dh wants a man who thinks he’s fine to drive after 6 pints caring for his grandmother?

Why?

ChristmasMantleStatue · 27/12/2025 16:12

I will also add. My job was to make the report. The job of the DVLA and anyone else was to investigate it and act, should they consider that to be appropriate.

I would always, but always, suggest that anyone who thinks there is an issue to report without fear or favour. That is why the anonymous reporting system exists.

RenovationNightmare · 27/12/2025 16:12

I think that you should have reported him a long time ago, and I think you are unreasonable to only care about your children being in the car with him. What about other innocent drivers on the road or pedestrians?
Others could have been seriously injured. How would you feel if a drunk driver killed your family member and the drunk drivers family knew that they had driven drunk repeatedly and simply banned the driver from carrying their children.

Vaxtable · 27/12/2025 16:12

YANBU. I would not be sending a penny and I would also expect your DH to say the same, and if he didn’t there would be a big row. FIL needs to accept the consequences of his actions, this obviously is not the first time and each time he does it he gets into a lethal weapon that kills. What would you dh feel if his father killed someone because he lent him money to get off? He would be just as culpable as his father

as to GMIL sorry FIL gets taxis or whatever and is inconvenienced

NewWinger · 27/12/2025 16:12

Magistrates have to disqualify drink-drivers. There is some leeway regarding the length of the ban, but they have zero authority not to ban. He will be disqualified, regardless of what any solicitor might say. He should save his money and stop asking you for help.

EraOfTheGrey · 27/12/2025 16:14

It's a type of arrogance that tells him that he is unimpaired. If alcohol doesn't affect you then no-one would drink it.
My brother was 12 when a drink driver mounted the pavement my brother was on and blasted him through the air. The drunk driver had no lights on his car so my brother didn't see him. My brother has been left with permanent brain damage.
Encourage him to defend himself because if he isn't remorseful then there's a hope that his ban is significantly longer. If I had my way then he would be locked up and his car crushed.

Itsmetheflamingo · 27/12/2025 16:14

ChristmasMantleStatue · 27/12/2025 16:10

I wrote an online report saying that he was seen drink driving, with the dates and that he had a medical diagnosis of macular degeneration as well as a recent history of strokes. He was also 96 at the time.

Okay?:

So you didn’t really shop him for drink driving. He was judged to not be a competent driver likely for medical reasons following your report. Good for you, but it’s nothing like stopping drunk driving is it?

countingdowntotheholidays · 27/12/2025 16:14

He deserves punishment for his actions.He deserves no sympathy or financial help.

Imlyingandthatsthetruth · 27/12/2025 16:15

"...It was about a 5 mile drive home, but on a stretch of A road that often has patrols on it..." I don't know what you are trying to say here. If he'd gone on a different road it would have been okay? FFS! Anyway, your DH is veering towards contributing money to this lost (in every sense) cause? Just why?

ChristmasMantleStatue · 27/12/2025 16:15

Itsmetheflamingo · 27/12/2025 16:14

So you didn’t really shop him for drink driving. He was judged to not be a competent driver likely for medical reasons following your report. Good for you, but it’s nothing like stopping drunk driving is it?

That;s correct and yes, good for me for bringing it to the attention of those who could make the call.

CrazyGoatLady · 27/12/2025 16:18

RunningJo · 27/12/2025 14:42

Not a chance I’d be giving him a penny. I lost a family member due to a drunk driver so have even less sympathy (if that’s possible) the average person.
He deserves a ban, if he wants to throw how own money into a pointless defence, let him, but it would be a cold day in hell before I gave him a penny from mine.

I'm so sorry this happened to you. I just don't understand why people would risk it when the consequences can be so dire.

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CrazyGoatLady · 27/12/2025 16:22

Snowdropskeepfalling · 27/12/2025 14:45

You've had rows over it before? So he regularly drives under the Influence but no-one thought to report him because your kids weren't in the car? So no thought for kids travelling in another car that he could have killed. .I don't care who they are, I'd report my own dad if he ever did that. Shame on you all for turning a blind eye to it previously.

I did talk to the police previously - nothing they could do unless they caught him in the act. If I'd had the ability to know exactly when he was driving home from the pub to have him caught, I would have. But he never did it when we were around, because he knew I'd have reported him. We live a 4hr drive from the PIL, so not like we can pop round on a Friday night and see if his car's there or not.

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BarLines · 27/12/2025 16:23

Perhaps he could appeal to the judge on the basis that he didn’t have your DC in the car OP so it’s not so serious 🙄 I mean obviously he could have killed someone else’s children, but not yours so it’s not so bad is it?

WittyTaupeFox · 27/12/2025 16:23

the law is very clear on drink driving. If he wants to mount a defence it should be at his own cost.

I think your silence to him would speak volumes and your husband if he advocates for him needs to have a good hard look at his moral compass.

no excuse ever for drink driving

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