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Cockroach Café 🪳 🪳 🪳New Year 2025

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MereDintofPandiculation · 03/01/2025 09:49

Welcome in to the Cockroach Café Bad Daughters’ Room, the rugs and cushions all fresh and clean for the new season.
Good daughters, find your way to the small room behind the stairs. Sorry it’s not as equipped as here, but it doesn’t get much use.
Come in when you want to share good news, or to rant, or just to hang out with others who understand what you're going through. The way MN works, hopefully this thread won’t appear in any featured lists, and the only people wandering in will be those who understand what it’s all about.
If you have a BIG question, it might be worth giving it its own thread, so as not to swamp this one.
For newbies: why cockroach? Previous long term resident of "Elderly Parents" Yolo's DM attended a 'small animal event' in a nursing home, and was presented with a "small animal with a hard back" the name of which species she couldn't remember. Her ever helpful DB suggested cockroach, and it has become a toast on here. My recent enquiries suggested more people wanted to keep the well known name than wanted to change it to something more savoury, so for the moment it stays.

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Choconuttolata · 16/02/2025 16:44

Oh no @BestIsWest your poor Mum. Have you managed to get some pain relief into her to manage her pain while you are waiting? I hope it is only four hours, that is sadly quite reasonable compared to some of the waiting times you hear about for people who have fallen. Glad you are with her and she is not on her own.

StripyMug · 16/02/2025 16:51

@BestIsWest Fingers crossed it won't be too long. When my mum fell recently they also said around 4 hours but in the end it was less than 2. 🤞🤞🤞

PermanentTemporary · 16/02/2025 18:00

@BestIsWest oh God! Hope the ambulance gets there soon.

@ArabellaFishwife the only thing you can ever do is take decisions based on the information you have at the time. It sounds like it was a sensible plan then and after all you are more liable for IHT if the house has been sold, so if your motivation was to avoid tax you wouldn't have sold, surely.

ArabellaFishwife · 16/02/2025 18:14

@PermanentTemporary Quite. We were working towards nothing being left, really. It's not an expensive house and its value would have been eaten up by fees inside a very few years.
@BestIsWest it's horrible that the wait is so long. There ought to be some kind of flying pain relief squad for these scenarios, when the ambulance can't get there within a certain timeframe. MIL went through something very similar. It's inhumane.

MotherOfCatBoy · 16/02/2025 19:00

Oh @BestIsWest hope you’re both ok. Can you administer tea and hot water bottle? Although I suppose tea might not be a good idea if your Mum can’t get to the loo. Hope they don’t take too long. Xx

BestIsWest · 16/02/2025 22:49

Thanks all. I’m home now. The ambulance came within two hours thankfully. She’s had a CT scan and nothing broken but they are keeping her in as she can’t put weight down on her leg and is going to the geriatric assessment unit in the morning. Had quite a dingdong with the Dr who wanted to send her home. Thankfully the paramedic sided with me after he took her to the toilet.

The Dr also said that the CT scan showed hydrocephalus and she may not have Alzheimer’s.

BestIsWest · 16/02/2025 23:01

Having looked up Normal pressure hydrocephalus just now, it fits her exactly. They are going to refer her to a neurologist.

MotherOfCatBoy · 17/02/2025 10:21

Is that good @BestIsWest ? I mean it’s fortuitous that her fall has revealed a more accurate condition - that’s got to be good, to know more about it? But I don’t know anything about the condition itself… also good no break, that makes a big difference.

Juneday · 17/02/2025 13:38

Just popping in for a quick reviving drink and to see how everyone is. I had a quick skim read and saw usual problems, no surprise, but I hope the home is working out @funnelfan and all the arguments about discharge and GPs and SS just assuming family can appear as if by magic and pick the pieces are not still on going. Wishful thinking I expect. MiL died over 8 months ago now, visit to the memorial garden for ashes only just organised for various reasons - slight issue that DH wanted only the three children but one 'in law' seems to have invited themselves and chose the date. I am not going, that wasn't the plan - but now it might look odd that I am not. Ironically many will remember I saw 10 times more of MiL than her family, and slightly more than DH - who to be fair was a very regular visitor when she was in and out of hospital and in the nursing home, always making sure she had a visitor to look forward to whether she knew it or not. Some may remember two weeks before she died I sat in on an assessment about continuing health care funding, where of course the NHS representative/lead would try their hardest to say she did not qualify and we weren't at end of life, the social services lady wanted a fight over it - I admired her. By the time the lead was back from holiday MiL had died, in the nursing home, peacefully - funny that he didn't think she was ill enough for NHS funding.... Reading the posts on here takes me back to the appalling discharge from hospital situations, the tears, the frustration, the rudeness of some staff and every now and then an absolute star who was kind and honest. The SW who visited, telling my husband she was visiting his aunt (different surname as MiL remarried so caused confusion, but surely the notes would have been clear) and told him as MiL had capacity he didn't need to be present - but agreed he could be - turned out to be one of the stars. Within 10 minutes she said she needs a nursing home, she doesn't have capacity - this was just weeks after hospital discharged her based on a made up story she told them about her house and her husband and previous notes that said her son lived with her!!! So those of you going through, keep going, I hope you find a star who cares about the person not the costs... Now I am beginning to see the decline in my own parents, familiar early warning signs - DM who repeats the same questions over and over, blames lack of understanding or hearing on the phone, father who gets things a little confused particularly dates and then repeats the wrong information to my mother. The car has gone, a relief tbh, but they feel isolated in their village with is poor bus service (not that DM could get on the bus without lots of help). Demands to visit them more often, which we can do more easily as we no longer have to worry about MiL, but, only at weekends and two nights is enough all round. DH says he gets bored of hearing same stories over and over about people he's never heard of - mostly old friends and people in village, many of whom I have never met either. DS gets very frustrated with DM and sides with DD on everything, she doesn't see it is aging and corrects and argues.... DM is a single minded person and DD can be weak but also wants to be centre of attention at all times!! I feel when the time comes I have more experience now about what help is needed and where to get it, luckily they have the funds to pay for lots of help, they have a cleaner and a gardener and kind neighbours - but the distance is a worry. I feel for those of you who have a long journey and are expected by GPs and SS to drop everything to fill the gaps. MiL's last year was not fun, visiting her became more and more stressful and upsetting, the last visit I left the room and didn't see her again after she was convinced I was the women who stole her first husband, sweating and screaming at me. I knew it was aimed at me, but her getting so upset was horrid for all. Today I am going through more boxes, sorting bits for charity again.... I need to get it down to one small plastic crate that DH can keep.

sorry long message..... extra long coffee and peice of cake....

good luck all, don't give in where there may be help, don't take anything to heart said by someone whose brain is shutting down .... I know now that I was really stressed and struggling, I bored everyone to death with my moan and worries, there was no support offered to me as the unpaid secondary carer and I see that now and how I got upset by small things and frustrated by it all, others have had to cope for far longer and take on far more - my best wishes are with you

thesandwich · 17/02/2025 13:52

@juneday what a thoughtful and helpful post. Sorry there are still family issues re ashes.

StripyMug · 17/02/2025 14:52

Thankyou @Juneday for such an honest and thoughtful post.

BestIsWest · 17/02/2025 19:04

@MotherOfCatBoy I don’t know. If she was younger and diagnosed sooner then a shunt could help alleviate the symptoms instead of which she’s got progressively worse over 4 days. However, I had a chat with the consultant today and she still thinks Alzheimer’s so who knows?
She’s being kept in and fingers crossed going to the local hospital for re-ablement tomorrow.

BestIsWest · 17/02/2025 19:21

*Too late to edit but 4 days should read 4 years.

SockFluffInTheBath · 17/02/2025 21:25

@BestIsWest glad nothing was broken in the fall, interesting that the hydrocephalus was flagged. Would be amazing if there was something that could be done.

BestIsWest · 17/02/2025 21:34

Wouldn’t it? I think it’s unlikely though - the consultant made me feel I was clutching at straws. They have done a referral for a further MRI and to neurology though.

MotherOfCatBoy · 18/02/2025 07:07

Good luck @BestIsWest
We can’t reverse the aging but it would be good if a bit better quality of life were available. Fingers crossed for you both.

Choconuttolata · 18/02/2025 11:19

I hope the MRI can give you some answers @BestIsWest and that your Mum is as comfortable as she can be in, hopefully the reablement assessment will also help with identifying her needs too and get her some support in place for when she comes home eventually.

BestIsWest · 18/02/2025 14:28

Thank you, looks like the transfer to reablement will be tomorrow now.

GaolyCafard · 19/02/2025 16:28

Hello, this thread was recommended elsewhere on MN. I haven’t RTFT yet, but I feel like a bad daughter as mentioned in the OP.

SockFluffInTheBath · 19/02/2025 17:26

GaolyCafard · 19/02/2025 16:28

Hello, this thread was recommended elsewhere on MN. I haven’t RTFT yet, but I feel like a bad daughter as mentioned in the OP.

Oh god don’t rtft unless you have time, patience, and capacity for more shenanigans in your head! Welcome, pull up a chair, and pour a drink.

Welcome 🍷☺️

SockFluffInTheBath · 19/02/2025 17:27

I said welcome twice. I may or may not be in my second M&S cosmo tin at just-got-home o’clock 😅

SockFluffInTheBath · 19/02/2025 17:29

How did today go @BestIsWest ?

BestIsWest · 19/02/2025 17:55

@SockFluffInTheBath didn't get off to a good start! After spending 30 minutes driving round trying to park, I arrived to find they had lost her hearing aid! She’s completely deaf without it and loses the ability to speak as well. Luckily I have a spare so made an emergency call to DH and he delivered it.

No progress on the move to reablement. It’s a case of waiting for a bed now. DB has gone up with a bag full of clothes etc for her this evening. I think we are both in agreement that she needs a lot more care than we can provide, whether at home or in a care home. No news on the brain MRI either.

She seemed quite cheerful today and is eating well.

GaolyCafard · 19/02/2025 17:58

SockFluffInTheBath · 19/02/2025 17:26

Oh god don’t rtft unless you have time, patience, and capacity for more shenanigans in your head! Welcome, pull up a chair, and pour a drink.

Welcome 🍷☺️

Thanks SockFluff, I went back and read it from the end of January.

It looks like I’m at an earlier stage than others on this thread as my parents are still living independently. If my dad dies, no way my mum can live alone. And I’m not convinced my dad could live alone if anything happens to my mum. He’d try though.

I don’t live anywhere near them, so “popping in” isn’t an option, and their house isn’t suitable for visitors. So we have to book a hotel to visit them at their house or book a holiday cottage and take them on a mini break.

My DB lives close locally to them and takes them to the supermarket once a week. He has them round for a meal at his house about once every two months.

I learned this week that my mum doesn’t know how to put the milk back in the fridge.

SockFluffInTheBath · 19/02/2025 18:07

All Bad Daughters welcome @GaolyCafard regardless of how far down the road you/they are. It’s a lonely spot sometimes.

@BestIsWest sounds like ended better than it started. Glad she’s happy.