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Elderly parents

The new shiny 2019 thread for anyone caring for elderly parents

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thesandwich · 31/12/2018 19:37

Continuing the long running series of threads. Pace yourself, it's a marathon not a sprint!
This is a safe place to offload- don't be embarrassed about how you feel. No judgement here
There are lovely people here with practical experience of some of the issues which crop up who'll share their hard won knowledge!
And a few laughs and the odd cockroach or gin....

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BlueGlasses · 16/01/2019 18:18

Hello all. Long post alert.

First posted here back in September when I had a crisis with mums mobility after her consultant reduced her parkinsons meds to try to reduce her hallucinations. Silly doctor. It was a UTI with a very strong hold all along.

Just got her relatively stable for 3 short weeks and the consultant rings to increase the pregabalin he prescribed in September for leg pain. I don't know why he did this.

Within one week her mobility was rubbish again, her coordination was poor, overnight incontinence. And then on 31/10 she had a fall overnight and I found her on the floor having laid there for at least 10 hours. She was very distressed and cold. She was taken to A&E where I learned she'd also had a heart attack, brought on by the stress of laying on the floor for hours and hours.

Cue the next two weeks where instead of getting better with treatment she just got worse and worse. She literally became like a zombie. Couldn't move independently, couldn't eat or drink without help. And for all her mobility issues mum had always been sharp. Now she was off her head somewhere else. I thought this is it. Dementia has kicked off. Doctors told me to start looking for a care home place.

I then thought to look up pregabalin on drugs.com as it was the only recent change. Holy shit. All the side effects were exactly like they were describing my mum. I took my concerns to the consultant and asked him to take her off it, which he said he would do but could only wean her off slowly because it's withdrawal effects can be horrific.

Well yes they were. As she slowly regained her mobility so delirium kicked in, which was a blessing really because this meant she moved off the social pathway home and onto the health pathway. This meant I could press for her to move to respite instead of going straight home.

So after 6 weeks in hospital (where I visited every single day) she moved into a respite bed and today, after being there for just over a month, she has finally come home.

She has a care package in place for next 4-6 weeks but she'll be on her own the rest of the time, including overnights.

All the tech the OT said mum would get for coming home has not come. But there's a delivery of equipment coming tomorrow for her.

She's had a stairlift fitted (own expense) but took her a few go's trying to turn the seat with her feet / hands and I'm still not confident she's going to be able to do it in her own tonight to get to bed.

I've now left her and I'm not sure what time the carers are going in tonight. I've set the alarms back up in her phone to remind her to take her drugs until the pivotal box arrives.

Trouble is in theory all this 'support' stuff Occ therapy can provide sounds great. The reality is none of it is there or set up for the day she arrives home. It all feels like a great big risk.

However this catastrophic situation has meant that now is the time to reestablish some boundaries. I want to be her daughter and not her carer. As she declined so much and so quickly last year I just stepped up until the point I was suffocated by her needs. When the social worker in the hospital asked me what I could do in terms of care I said nothing. You can not rely on me. But I only had the strength to say that to her from reading the advice on your posts.

If your still here thanks for reading. Cockroach all

MereDintofPandiculation · 16/01/2019 18:26

She's had a stairlift fitted (own expense) but took her a few go's trying to turn the seat with her feet / hands and I'm still not confident she's going to be able to do it in her own tonight to get to bed. yes, that was a surprising sticking point for my father. If she still has trouble, it may be possible to retro-fit a "power swivel", which means, in theory, that the seat hits the end of the track and then the seat swivels of its own accord. I don't know if the theory works in practice - we're still awaiting fitting.

When the social worker in the hospital asked me what I could do in terms of care I said nothing. Well done! You will still be the go-to person if she falls, you'll be the person hand-holding for 8 hours while you wait for the ambulance and another 8 hours in A&E. Then you'll be doing all the running around behind the scenes, all the management work. There's no way you could do all that and take on any of the "caring".

Grace212 · 16/01/2019 18:47

Hi MrsCat1

What kind of help do you have? How are their finances in terms of getting help? Are you set for things like Attendance Allowance etc?

thesandwich · 16/01/2019 18:57

Hi blue a big 🌺🌺🍷🍷for you- you and your dm have been through hell. Hope the care set up works and sorry you have had so much to handle.
And well done for saying that to the social worker! It is what I try to say to myself to prevent the slide into care....
cockroach all!!!

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BlueGlasses · 16/01/2019 21:29

Thank you for your supportive words. I've just rang her. She's been upstairs on the lift on her own, which bodes well for tonight. The carer has also been and she made herself scrambled eggs on toast for her tea. Tonight will be the first night she will be alone since she had the fall / heart attack 10 weeks ago. I've practically stapled her alarm to her wrist and told her under no circumstances is she to take it off. We'll see what the morning brings.

RoseMartha · 16/01/2019 21:44

Hi all thanks for the welcome and supportive comments. To top my week off the household including me have been struck down with a heavy head cold, (this also includes my almost ex husband, making tensions more rife than usual), kids are whinging about picking their dirty tissues off the floor while I am expected to carry on as normal and serve their every need!!! 😡

On plus side while I was at the chemist for my mum I bumped into a lady who sometimes takes her for coffee and updated her on things and she has since rung my mum to take her out. Which is a blessing 😀

Grace212 · 16/01/2019 22:18

Blue so your DM can make a meal, the carer doesn't do it? That's good, also good re the stairlift.

yolofish · 16/01/2019 22:31

I am so so sorry for all of you still going through all this (and for your oldies too of course). I read some posts and it brings back the whole terror/tension/nightmare of what we went through before my mum died.

I think it is really easy to underestimate how much toll it takes on us as carers, and our families too. Please, look after yourselves, remember the oxygen mask/teflon coating that you need in order to continue doing what you are doing. And if you cant keep on, there is no shame/guilt in that, that's what social services etc are there for.

Feel quite emotional reading some of the latest posts, and I think it is not grief but the remembered stress of mum's last 5 months (and the 10 years before). Dont underestimate how much you are doing and the toll it is taking, even if you dont recognise it now. Much love and strength and cockroach to you all.

Grace212 · 16/01/2019 22:41

yolo

yes, memories of dad's illness trouble me much more than his death. I've only told one friend that, I think some people might be horrified, but his death freed him from suffering.

yolofish · 16/01/2019 22:49

grace I totally understand you. Relief from suffering has to be the best result doesnt it? mum was so so unhappy and frightened, I had to stop visiting on oct 13 because it just seemed to make her so much worse (plus had DH diagnosis to deal with) and she died on Nov 1. That makes me feel really bad, I hadnt been in for 2.5 weeks - but honestly, her grasp on reality was so slim by then, she recognised me but was desperately asking me to save her and of course I couldnt - how could I? the suffering is so much worse than the death xx

yolofish · 16/01/2019 22:54

but honestly, £14k to die at your own choice? bloody ridiculous. My mum supported Dignity in Dying for many years, but gone none herself.

I honestly wish that when she fell down the radiator in the hall on June 6 last year she'd broken her skull catastophically rather than her shoulder and upper arm. Maybe then she could have bowed out with some dignity, rather than 9 hospital admissions, 3 diff care homes and 5 months of torment. I'm sure, in fact I know I've said it before on these threads: you would be prosecuted for putting a pet through what our oldies go through. just so wrong, in my view.

pineapplebryanbrown · 16/01/2019 23:05

I agree with you Grace and Yolo medicine has prolonged life but to what end?

Dad has only been old for 2 years I suppose and ill for only about 4 months. Already it seems a lifetime ago that he was traipsing along with me chatting and dog walking.

I'm afraid that this part of his life will block out my memories of him being my best friend all my life.

yolofish · 16/01/2019 23:20

thigh big hugs... I understand. mum was my best friend for many years, and then she became my mother for whom I had to care - very different/difficult relationship. I think, and hope, with time I will be able to remember her as she was, not how she became. At her funeral, the celebrant's final words were: as yolo said, name had a long life, well lived and very much loved. That seems a good epitaph to me.

pineapplebryanbrown · 16/01/2019 23:36

Yolo that's a wonderful epitaph, who could hope for more really. To be very much loved is the crowning glory at the end of our time here.

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bringincrazyback · 17/01/2019 00:20

I think it's time I jumped on this thread. I made a few posts before Christmas about my situation, which I got some lovely supportive responses to (thanks peeps :-)) For those who don't know me: my elderly parents live with myself and DH,. in mostly separate parts of the house, though some rooms shared. Things are tough lately as my dad has multiple conditions that sometimes necessitate hospitalisation. My mother, meanwhile, may be starting with dementia, is way too thin and hasn't had so much as a basic GP check-up in years, and refuses to go to the doctor, so there's a lot of worry there too.

Added to this they are the most infuriatingly passive people in the world, and it's come to the point where I have to do a lot of their thinking for them, otherwise they'd just sit there all day, and not seek medical help when my dad needs it because they tend to bury their heads in the sand. It has only been my doing the 'pushy daughter' act that has got my dad the medical treatment he needed for three serious illnesses he spent time in hospital for, and I genuinely believe he'd have died if I hadn't intervened. So these days I find I'm more or less constantly ''monitoring' his health as, sad to say, I don't consider my mother to be entirely mentally competent enough to do so - she tends to drift off into her own little world when my dad's illl.

It's exhausting. Mainly emotionally exhausting. I can't help harbouring resentments and then feeling horribly guilty about it. I worry constantly about the health of both parents and am constantly second-guessing myself about whether I could be doing more to help. All this has to be fitted around work somehow, which causes a whole other ton of stress.

So without wanting to whine, life is tough right now and I felt it'd be good to be around people who 'get it'.

yolofish · 17/01/2019 08:54

thigh we got mum's through the Royal Naval Officers Association, and I 'think' they paid for it all.

bringing I get it. We all get it. Unfortunately. It may be too early, but have a Wine and we'll provide the shoulders to cry on.

Grace212 · 17/01/2019 09:09

Spoke too soon saying mum was coping
Woke up this morning to her having another panic attack

Going to need virtual hugs

We have a doc appointment tomorrow but she won't take meds

I suppose a panic attack less than three months after is bound to happen, right?

thesandwich · 17/01/2019 09:15

Oh grace so sorry to hear- it is early days, so quite understandable. Would she try anything like kalms, rescue remedy, headspace app? Big squishy hugs for you.🌺🌺
bring sorry you have to join us.
Sorry- no knowledge of stairlifts- try age uk for advice?
cockroach all☕️☕️

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pineapplebryanbrown · 17/01/2019 09:35

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pineapplebryanbrown · 17/01/2019 09:36

ID bracelet with my number on?

bringincrazyback · 17/01/2019 09:50

Thanks @yolofish! Have to admit there are days when I wish wine was a breakfast beverage! lol

Grace212 · 17/01/2019 09:52

thigh sorry to hear that

ID bracelet seems a good idea.

so your sis is here at the moment to help out?

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pineapplebryanbrown · 17/01/2019 09:55

Grace no, not to help out. 3 hours for a cup of tea and chat yesterday and quick visit this morning before she leaves again.

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