Sorry if I've posted to the wrong forum, but for the record, the US doesn't have national service either, it's all volyntary, but they recruit in high schools in sneaky ways, promising the kids all kinds of goodies like education, high salaries, pleasant jobs and so on, and the contracts have all kinds of fine print -- not much different from criminal abductions if you ask me.
About Waldorf: The almost one thousand messages that have been shared here scratch the surface only, just the tip of the iceberg. Sharon Lombard, a published author, has done extensive research into the more sinister aspects of the Waldorf system and its origins, and let me tell you it's not for the squeamish. If you check out other forums where devotees of Rudolf Steiner are present, your kettle will boil over for sure. Here is one Waldorf teacher who openly admits practicing witchcraft:
groups.yahoo.com/group/anthroposophy_tomorrow/message/17219
"I am a witch. I do not worship Satan. Satanism is essentially a rebellion against
the Christian God and I am not interested in rebelling. The faith I follow is
about Reclaiming our deep connection to the Goddess and the Earth."
And she is a Waldorf teacher! And if you dig a little deeper in this particular forum. you'll find more than you expected in your wildest dreams -- some parts here are worth quoting:
groups.yahoo.com/group/anthroposophy_tomorrow/message/26466
"During my own practice, I was introduced to Dr. Rudolf Steiner's
works through a patient of mine. Later on, when I was visiting
Herbert at his home in Hamburg, I told him that I had been looking
into Steiner, and that I thought Steiner suffered from a unique
variety of schizophrenia because of his suppressed childhood traumas.
What I didn't know was that Herbert had also taken a keen interest in
Steiner, and that although he was very sympathetic to my views, he
also had some startling opinions of his own.
"These opinions were based upon letters he had seen, copies of letters
that had been procured by German Waldorf parents. Herbert said they
were called "The Basement Files". Someone had tried to publish them
once, but the Anthroposophical Society had banned the publication by
court order, confiscated the letter copies, and threatened to sue.
They couldn't even be mentioned in the media, it was complete
hush-hush."
"In his later years, Steiner was desperate to reproduce his peculiar
schizophrenia, this so-called "clairvoyance" or "initiation", in
other human beings after recommending exercises had yielded no
results among his students, so he began to concentrate on children,
whose minds, he said, were more attuned to the desired condition. And
in order to facilitate this spiritual condition in children,
initiation or clairvoyance, he thought he had to reproduce something
similar to his own childhood traumas. For this purpose, he extracted
a certain number of kids from the first Waldorf school in Stuttgart
and took them to a secret area below the Goethanum: The Basement.
"According to alleged descriptions, this was no ordinary basement. It
was a cluster of rooms that looked like bomb shelters, with many long
and winding corridors going in many directions, some of them to
unknown underground facilities underneath the woods nearby, and one
such corridor was said to reach all the way to Basel. It was said
that Steiner had acquired the services of an Italian man who knew the
secrets of the ancient pyramids. Anyway, the juxtaposition of these
underground rooms and corridors created a peculiar resonance and echo
when children chanted. Copies of the chants have never been seen, but
the resonance of the chants, which had been composed by the young
Aleister Crowley, Steiner's apprentice, produced some sort of trance
in the listeners. One of the underground rooms in the direction of
the nearby woods was said to contain chains, shackles, whips, and
there were pentagrams and hexagrams everywhere.
"Herbert didn't know much about the activities that Steiner had
arranged there, but the letters describing all of it are supposedly
called "The Steiner Basement Files". And there''s more: The Stuttgart
Waldorf kids who came back home from the Goetheanum Basement, were
said to be permanently changed; their personalities, attitudes,
opinions, interests were altered. Some became incurably
schizophrenic, and on at least one occasion, a boy became so violent
and dangerous that he had to be locked up. Those who were obviously
insane were later "mercy-killed" by the Nazis, others became Nazis
themselves, and some survived the second world war and denied that
the Nazi era and the war ever happened. Herbert had also heard of
anthroposophists who denied the holocaust, and he thought this was
their background. A few of them were not in any condition to leave
the Goethanum Basement, and some of those unfortunate children have
been rumored to still live in the Basement, over 90 years old at the
present time.
"But that is not all. After Steiner's death, the knowledge of the
secret Goetheanum Basement was passed on, and some founders of
Waldorf schools built such "special facilities" underneath their
schools. There are not many of these, but rumors have it that there
are at least three such "Waldorf Basements" on each continent. Those
Waldorf teachers who learned the special skills of the Basement, were
called "inspectors", and they would visit the schools equipped with
such facilities at night. The most important element was the echo
effect that the chanting had to produce. One rumor says that the
Goethanum Basement also contained, and still contains, a special
chamber for animal and human sacrifices."
Although this looks incredible, there are corroborative factors, not only in Sharon Lombard's research but also in Steiner-biographer Stewart Easton, who writes:
"Frau Grossheintz in a memoir published some years later was to describe how to everyone's surprise Rudolf Steiner stayed on in Dornach for some time after he had first seen the site and examined the entire area, including even the underground grottos to be found in the neighborhood of Arlesheim." ("Rudolf Steiner: Herald of a New Epoch")
And that guy in Austria, Joseph F, who held his own daughter captive in his basement for 24 years with nobody suspecting, was apparently a Waldorf Basement child himself, one who escaped. Austria was Rudolf Steiner's homeland, Waldorfland. Joseph F probably tried to create his own master race, the rulers of tomorrow, by inseminating his daughter that way. And Dr. Steiner was Dr. Mengele's twin soul in a way.
But the Waldorf people are basically harmless nowadays, at least if they don't have secret basement chambers. Some of them are into a little witchcraft and black magic, but just for fun it seems, nothing too serious. Some Waldorf students may be selected for special projects though, like D. Mengele and twins for instance, but they don't torture or mistreat them like the Nazis did I don't think.