The councils need to find spaces for all children!!

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https://bmmagazine.co.uk/news/surrey-runs-out-of-state-school-places-for-private-pupils-as-vat-raid-bites/?amp

I am relieved to see that the Surrey is also looking at options to expand class sizes and use transportation to take children to other areas. They really need to get their act together quickly.

all children has a right to state education.

@EasternStandard the most arrogant unintelligent ill educated crowd ever in an echo chamber

What should be top of their agenda is retaining higher rate tax payers and the highly educated. There are now 250k Brits in Dubai and Abu Dhabi etc are all trying to target the huge legal sector. Many many doctors have already left.

The real urgent issue now is retaining our top graduates and future tax payers and not a peep from them on this!

In fact, I would say charging VAT on private education is a one way ticket to encourage the highly educated private school lot to leave to growing economies like the US.

Well we will certainly be considering US/overseas universities for DD

My friend supper wealthy and her friends are leaving who can blame them my son graduates next year I’ve told him to not stay in the UK it’s a total mess no growth no positives

Yeh it's that arrogance plus cluelessness that's the killer

@EasternStandard and no business acumen anywhere in the benches my friend is a vat lawyer advises the government he was in a meeting two weeks so with noone over 30 with guess what no business experience

What worries me the most is that I have pretty much decided that I will never ever vote for one of the main parties again. However, if everyone else decides the same, what then?
Divisive policies simply stir up hatred and put people off the party for life - so we have millions of pensioners, pretty much all private school parents and kids, all of the farming community, small business owners etc etc - this must translate to millions of votes. And the Tory Party is in no fit state whatsoever.

So I ask, what then?

This is a major issue for Labour

@Araminta1003 it looks like there are three parties polling in the twenties now so it is shifting

It's harder for one to convert to seats, but still there's a while to go and look at France with three major parties / blocs and Barnier

Don't be shy there!! say what you think!

The right wing always come out with the insults, once you cannot make a coherent argument, same goes for you @Parsley1234

I've not called anyone names or backhanded slurs, just an honest difference of opinion, something a few on here will not tolerate.

The crisis in universities is funding, once again, a mess Labour have to fix, even harder now as we rely so heavily on Chinese students.

That people will leave the UK because of VAT on fees is a ridiculous argument, more likely to leave because of the state of our public services.

@louddumpernoise whst coherent argument would you like ?
I would imagine that there are a plethora of coherent arguments on here shd you bother to read them.
The brief synopsis is Labour has no idea and our country will be all the worse for it their ideology translates badly into reality

Unfortunately for your party @louddumpernoise economic figures are providing coherent analysis of the decrease in growth

I know it makes you react as such but really apart from your posts the polling shows what many think of Starmer and Labour only five months in

You're going to be posting a lot to support Labour to counter

I'm not sure why Labour deserve such support tbh from pp

But yes plenty of info if they read it

"Job vacancies are falling and the economy is "cooling", suggesting recession may be "around the corner", according to the boss of Reed, one of the UK's largest recruitment firms.Speaking to the BBC, James Reed said his firm had noticed a sharp fall in the number of jobs being advertised and urged the government to rethink the recent increase in the tax employers pay on staff wages"

The cluelessness and arrogance was about Reeves and co

Not sure why anyone in the thread would feel it's at them

I agree with @Parsley1234 that the lack of basic understanding and acumen is what's causing the major issues

That's why Labour trumpeted growth but now trying to hide that a bit as they're failing

@EasternStandard why would anyone think it’s about them 😂😂😂

No idea but pp seemed a bit put out at negativity about Labour politicians.

They might want to avoid this headline today. The idea it's all roses for Labour is for the birds

'Starmer more unpopular after five months than any other PM in over 40 years'

They knew it was coming. I voted labour to get rid of the Tories they did too much damage that is far worse than adding VAT to school fees. I will find the extra money from somewhere.

“They knew it was coming. I voted labour to get rid of the Tories they did too much damage that is far worse than adding VAT to school fees. I will find the extra money from somewhere.”

@ThatRareUmberJoker - if you are genuine and a private school Labour voter, rest assured you are in the stark minority now! Let’s not remember this tends to be a group of successful people with brains who understand, as a group, the difference between nasty political games vs genuine need to raise money/economics.
Given this policy does not fulfil the latter, it is clear they will have lost thousands and thousands of their own voters.
However, that is apparently just a small group. Let’s not forget the pensioners etc etc

They are now as deeply unpopular as the Tories and just as incompetent. Looks like a one term only. Which is even more worrying. Because God only knows what they will try and implement once they realise they only have another few years.

@Araminta1003 the term for me is champagne socialist. The schools in my area are shocking. If they were better I would put them in. One of the secondary schools around here was in the worst 100 school list in the country. Another school the parents protested over school skirts the school wanted to ban them. You'll never see anyone protest over education only skirts. My children's mental wellbeing and education means a lot to me. I could go on but I will leave it there for now.

Good for you, not all of us can find that extra money. For some it is the tipping point

Do you believe labour lied about the 22 billion black hole?
What should labour do to recoup that money?

It's not good for me you don't know me or my finances. Anything can happen.

What stage are your dc at?

I don't think anyone is going to be happy about a reduced private sector and lower vacancies which has been covered in pp

That makes it harder for dc coming out of education to find opportunities

Plus the VAT policy you support doesn't actually bring in funding or benefit anyone much. It does disrupt dc education though and damage a sector

£22 bilkion
7 billion increased public sector wages and then Reeves was given an extra 10 billion from the BOE Friday before her budget so 5 billion maybe if I’m being generous