STEINER WALDORF SCHOOLS AND INSTITUTIONS #2

[zzooey]

The steiner waldorf thread ran to a halt because apparently a 1000 messages are a maximum. Let's continue here!!

Pete What?
We're talking girl stuff here to get rid of bee.
But YOU can join in.
Do you fancy Marco Pierre white?

Oh whoops, I'm talking about the wrong thread
Oh well. Do you anyway?
Lets get rid of bee here too.I've had enough of him

This is the thread to see off bee
here

30 students, that's very...scientifically sound

Thebee:

"Many people world wide could possibly disagree with what you have to say about it.

Or maybe they all just had geniuses and super talents for parents."

Did I ever say other people don't have differing opinions?

I'm not interested in celebrity lists. Those are no testaments of quality.

My parents are talented enough. Apperantly that wasn't enough, because they were fooled nonetheless by the deceptive anthroposophists who do not want to discuss their beliefs openly.

'He's been getting down wid de gels on another thread'

Yes that was getting downright racy

Pssst... have you tried the blush...

Pete, great link
I find the blush.... unnecessarily distracting

ROFL!!

The most accurate description of the subject I've seen in the wiki style.

This is so true, it transcends the whole conccept of truth:

"Steiner also thought that students should be taught how to paint, but only how to paint stuff that looks good when you're high."

The waldorf paintings really look like they were painted when high on psychadelic drugs.

?Education and Steiner should not go in same sentence?

~ Oscar Wilde on Steiner

Be it a real quote or not, doesn't matter (most of thebee's quotes aren't real either, we have to assume), it's true nonetheless.

Zooey , oh so harsh and oh so true

and oh so funny

PeteK - loved the link

Ahasver the legendary wandering Jew.

Is there no end to Steiner's racist superiority complex?

I hadn't read this one, only the writing about the evil races who are destroyed or die out as the spiritually higher races continue to evolve.

I wonder what the higher perfect races are?

What are the higher racial forms bee, could you explain to us all?

You forgot:

Make legal threats against host web site

Canned response #5 - "This is a myth propagated by a hate group in San Francisco" (I guess that falls under "attack the questioner")

Pete
Diana, ditto

Love the stenograper/curtain one, and the "when at the Gotheanum".
Really? He pretended to be racist?
What fun.

Last night my daughter and I were going over her Waldorf work books from kindergarten until she left the Waldorf school at the age of nine. The books were filled with pictures that the children had copied from the blackboard. Supernatural beings featured prominently in many of them. Aside from the pictures in the work books and a large stack of blob paintings, there was very little written work, even in the Maths books, and much of the content was religious. Even in the books from her last year, when she was eight and nine, the maths books still contained only a handful of sums, including such advanced maths as "1+2=3." Of two Spanish books, one had no words and the other had about fifteen or twenty, representing three years of studying Spanish!

My daughter asked me how I could not have seen at the time that she was not being taught anything. Well, after looking at those work books and seeing an abundance of color and a dearth of education, I was asking myself the same question. The answer is that we parents were constantly being told how effective and superior Waldorf education was. I fell for the propaganda--hook, line, and sinker. Going over those Waldorf work books all these years later was a real eye-opener.

Powerofjoy - that sounds about right.
I was really upset to realise that after four years of French my son could not come up with a single useful phrase.

I had 6 years of English and German in waldorf - and after all those years, I had no experience in constructing a sentence. I had some limited knowledge of very simple vocabulary (like "tree" "house" "flower"...) but nothing else. 6 years!!

Maths... In fifth grade we did the multiplication tables, up to 10*10. But only by memory, not understanding.

Blob paintings... yes. Large amounts of them.

Useless.

Aah, poor Rudolf

Group pressure made him racist and people hiding behind curtains...

The insect has disappeared it seems. Or is he haunting another discussion board these days?

"Love the stenograper/curtain one, and the "when at the Gotheanum".
Really? He pretended to be racist?"

Really. He tries to imply that Steiner was just being "one of the boys," that he had to speak in simplified terms, perhaps even pander to prejudice, to somehow get mystical wisdom across to such coarse, ill-bred fellows.

It fits, doesn't it, with his own attempts here to lower himself to what he thinks is "street talk" or "pub talk" among the gals? He makes it obvious it isn't him, that he's too much of a gentleman for such vulgar associations in real life, but in his magnanimous way he's willing to talk to the lower classes here - anything for the cause, bringing Steiner's wisdom to the world, or preventing its sullying down in the gutter.

I'll cite his own web site for him:

www.waldorfanswers.com/OnSalonArticle.html

Scroll down to "Steiner 1922" the blue-eyed/blond haired stuff.

(Skip the Jewish stuff higher upon that page because the hypocrisy of it will make you sick.)

"Or is he haunting another discussion board these days?"

Whereabouts unknown at the moment.

Geez you'd think I'd have learned.

Steiner gets down wid de boyz

I found him. He has made 2 comments on my blog. I thought he'd given up on that. Maybe he had some time left to spend, now that he so obviously lost the battle here on mumsnet

I had said that neglect to vaccinate makes the negligent into disease spreaders (can you say that? and into parasites because they benefit from other people's sense of responsibility in vaccinating. He thinks this means I use the same arguments that Hitler did about the Jews. (Though, it's implicit - he doesn't mention Hitler or the Holocaust.)

Very faulty logic. Just vaccinate, then I won't say you spread diseases - this goes for anthros and everyone else.

Yes, Diana, it's in conversation his excessive linking becomes tedious. In all other circumstances, I think we can assume his web sites are real great assets! (for us!)

I think if we could link to the page where he compares DanD to Usama Bin Laden, that would be magnificent. Where could that have been?

The other day I just remembered when you told about him accusing critics of sending the anthrax letters. And I thought... why didn't I think of that before? It's genius in its nuttiness. Anthrax!! You don't have to be Sherlock to understand the implications here.