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Help please!! Foul play, teacher marking work fraudulently

267 replies

TM80 · 01/07/2023 12:15

I would like some advice on what I should do. My DD is in Y5, they have finished their end of year tests for Maths and English. The teacher had lost a few of the children's test answer papers, so he has given one of the children the opportunity to do the test again. However, my DD has observed the teacher providing the child who had to do the test again with the answers. Now unsurprisingly, this child has scored 140 out of 140, this child also happens to be the 'teacher's pet'. Where do I go with this information?

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Iamgoingtohell · 01/07/2023 14:45

If you’re concerned, talk to the head teacher.

ChangeIsInevitable · 01/07/2023 14:46

tenterden · 01/07/2023 14:31

I think you’ve rather missed the spirit of the thread.

Along with those bleating about “safeguarding”

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Ah sorry then. Took the poster seriously.

Tessabelle74 · 01/07/2023 14:47

They're not worth the paper they're written on and make sod all difference to a child's schooling so why do you care?

RedToothBrush · 01/07/2023 14:48

Maireas · 01/07/2023 12:21

The teacher is probably part of that Wagner mercenary group as well. It's a fiendish plot to destabilise the West, one Maths test at a time.

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Floatlikeafeather2 · 01/07/2023 14:51

TM80 · 01/07/2023 12:15

I would like some advice on what I should do. My DD is in Y5, they have finished their end of year tests for Maths and English. The teacher had lost a few of the children's test answer papers, so he has given one of the children the opportunity to do the test again. However, my DD has observed the teacher providing the child who had to do the test again with the answers. Now unsurprisingly, this child has scored 140 out of 140, this child also happens to be the 'teacher's pet'. Where do I go with this information?

In the first place, how do you know the teacher lost some papers? Is that also something that your daughter told you? I'm not sure he would have announced it to the class and then said "But tough. Only Johnny is going to be allowed to take it again". I'm not going to say your daughter is a liar -I don't know her - but schools are full of Chinese Whispers, petty vendettas, cliques and everything else that's not always good. She's 9? 10? Why is she so invested in this?

Sugargliderwombat · 01/07/2023 14:59

Oh OP there are no such standardised end of year tests 😅. And why would a teacher fake these tests? The information goes absolutely nowhere 🤣. Maybe to the next teacher but noone will actually check them.

Your child is a terrible gossip / sore lover and you need to get a grip a bit.

Sugargliderwombat · 01/07/2023 15:00

*loser

Sugargliderwombat · 01/07/2023 15:01

Iamgoingtohell · 01/07/2023 14:45

If you’re concerned, talk to the head teacher.

Oh to be a fly on the wall for this conversation 🤣

IglesiasPiggl · 01/07/2023 15:05

This is all a bit bonkers. As many PP have said, a Y5 test is purely for internal purposes. If (and it's a very big if), the teacher has done this, then the person who comes off worst is the child who now thinks they have a perfect score and don't need to work on anything. Why on earth would a teacher do that? Start investing your energy in your own child, not other people's.

jazzybelle · 01/07/2023 15:07

Being given the answers and getting full marks is not going to do the child any good in the long run, is it?

MissChanandlerB0NG · 01/07/2023 15:08

I would take the comment with a pinch of salt tbh.

neveradullmoment99 · 01/07/2023 15:10

I agree that there is no such thing as a standard end of year test.
It never prevents anyone going forward to the next year.
It only tracks attainment and even if a score is low one particular time, It will only be a blip. Nothing more. It all pans out in the end.
Children tell their parents a lot of stuff they don't 100% understand. Likely your child has picked up something wrong but even if not, who really cares? It has zero impact in the long run.

GalileoHumpkins · 01/07/2023 15:13

ApocalypseNowt · 01/07/2023 12:18

Social services, police and the government. Just to be on the safe side.

Would the Avengers be interested?

Boomboom22 · 01/07/2023 15:13

Surely a quick Google would tell you there is no end of year 5 test?
Only ks1 phonics. Ks1 cats but think they've gone now. End if yr4 timetables test. And yr6 sats.

Boomboom22 · 01/07/2023 15:14

Cats are optional but many schools do in year 5
But not recently, there is an exam window.

AmazingBouncingFerret · 01/07/2023 15:18

You’ve got all this information from your Yr5 daughter?
You really need to learn the art of nodding along and a well placed “that’s nice/awful!” when she retells you this kind of gossip…

TinyTom · 01/07/2023 15:18

Teacher here, currently limping to the end of term, HUGELY enjoying this thread, thank you for this gift.

FYI don't report it - you'll only come across as a complete tit and make everyone think the worse of you. I highly highly doubt this is true, but even if it is... so what. There are no 'standard' tests in Year 5, it really doesn't matter.

GalileoHumpkins · 01/07/2023 15:18

Cats are optional

Cats are never optional, the persistant little buggers.

neveradullmoment99 · 01/07/2023 15:23

Smartiepants79 · 01/07/2023 13:05

All schools will have end of year/term/topic assessments that they use to work out where the children are at and what needs to be worked on next year.
Now, some of these may be used in more than one school. As stated above in some circumstances (academy chains for example) groups of schools may use the same tests.
These tests are for internal information only. They have no impact on the children beyond the next 3 months. I can’t for the life of me understand why a teacher would go to the effort of allowing one child to ‘cheat’ on these assessments. It’s meaningless and the discrepancy would be quickly picked up in the child’s next assessments in her next class with a different teacher.

This.

StopStartStop · 01/07/2023 15:25

ChangeIsInevitable · 01/07/2023 14:46

Ah sorry then. Took the poster seriously.

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Jesus! That's a joke?

VasariMichelangelo · 01/07/2023 15:25

declutteringmymind · 01/07/2023 14:30

I'd have a word with the headteacher.

Maybe say your child has come home saying this and you're sure it's a misunderstanding but you would like her to know in case it is true and if it isn't to clarify the issue with the children as they don't want false rumours spreading.

I agree with this. Or just the teacher so if they've not done anything wrong they don't get into any trouble by the head for no reason.

@TM80 I think people are being a bit mean here. Whether the test is meaningless or not, it's not nice to think your child is being treated unfairly and most people wouldn't assume their child was lying.

Having said that, I would bet that there has been some crossed wires somewhere and there is a reasonable explanation, so just ask the teacher.

PuddlesPityParty · 01/07/2023 15:25

Niceseasidetown · 01/07/2023 12:51

The fact you're confused about this being a national test is a good illustration of how easy it is to get the wrong end of the stick.

This all sounds like playground gossip from here.

Are you saying that the teacher before your daughter's eyes gave the answers to another pupil? Extraordinary.

If not, then it sounds like the usual stuff kids speculate on.

1000% this! I can remember similar rumours in my primary school.

VasariMichelangelo · 01/07/2023 15:29

TinyTom · 01/07/2023 15:18

Teacher here, currently limping to the end of term, HUGELY enjoying this thread, thank you for this gift.

FYI don't report it - you'll only come across as a complete tit and make everyone think the worse of you. I highly highly doubt this is true, but even if it is... so what. There are no 'standard' tests in Year 5, it really doesn't matter.

I honestly couldn't care less if teachers were gossiping about me behind my back if I raised a concern. I would think 'the worse' of them for their lack of professionalism, and I'd imagine they wouldn't care about my thoughts either.

Banrockmystation · 01/07/2023 15:29

Oh please! End of yr 5 who cares?!!!!
not a real test. Not a GCSE or even a SAT! Probably just a random check of times tables or something! What a waste of a post!

MandyMotherOfBrian · 01/07/2023 15:35

TM80 · 01/07/2023 12:27

I know the score of the other child, as the teacher had announced it to the class and made a point that the child achieved the top grade.
Whilst this is only Y5, but this is the standard end of year test that children in all schools complete.

What on earth were you doing in a Year 5 classroom? Or, alternatively, weren’t you actually there…