AIBU - to think Year 10's will of has the worst Education

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Current Year 10's have missed out proportionately on Year 7 and Year 9 and practically all of Year 8. Teachers are now striking so proportionately on Year 10. AIBU to believe there will be no concessions for this Year Educationally. Missed education Concessions as I understand it come to an end this Year? Do I agree with Teachers striking not really, proportionately their Pension benefits for working in education will far exceed anybody in the private sector on the same Salaries, why is this never pointed out and why do they not get this?

I don’t think you are here in good faith, OP. I clearly used that as an example.

however, to save your tired little fingers from typing five letters into the box, similar figures for Uni of Essex - £284m income, £326m loss.

Now, you enjoy this lovely evening.

OP you're very clearly lying about your friends. Just give over and stop trolling people. Decide what fight you're going to fight because you're starting about 3 different ones here. If you're so unhappy with how much your Y10 has missed out on, you're welcome to give them some input at home. I'm sure you'll do a much better job than all these lazy teachers swimming in money and pension funds.

Are you really saying that fur example, dc2 who is sitting his A level this year, under the same conditions as your dc sitting their GCSE, has had it easier?

ALL the pupils have had to deal with covid and its disruptions. From primary years (imho the most important formative years) to secondary and university (I know someone who started their PHD just after the first lockdown. It hasnt been plain sailing fur them either. Far from). And all of them have to deal with the strikes (incl at Uni).

Seriously, if you want better education fir your dc, support the strike. Play the long term game. A few strikes now isn’t what’s going to make the biggest difference in your dc GCSE results.
But getting constant replacements teachers because they can’t find teachers due to the poor working conditions will.

Scottish universities still charge tuition fees. The student may not pay the fees themselves but the government certainly does.
You seem very ill-informed.

I have three close friends Teachers, they moved up the salary scale rates pretty quickly and all earn in the region of 60 to 100k.

Hilarious.

Obviously I can't tell if you are just making stuff up, or if your friends are lying to you and you are just spreading this nonsense.

I also heard (not sure if this is right) that the Scottish and Welsh education departments have agreed that year 11s this year can again be guided on areas on which topics are to come up on exam papers, whereas the English education department have decided not to. Not sure if anyone has further info on this?
I might get shot down for this but IMO there should be another two years of allowances to cover all students who were in high school years at the start of the pandemic. Possibly for those who were on year 6 too.

Y13 have had a dreadful time, and now they have strikes.

I am a head and when I retire next year will have been teaching 20 years. My pension will be £13,000 a year. It's not peanuts but hardly £46K!

My head teacher, who is head of two schools, doesn't even earn £60k FFS. Its almost impossible in primary unless you are head of a big school.

Gosh, this is depressing as a bog-standard class teacher. I don't understand how this is gold plated like everyone always says (although many seem to be under the misapprehension we are still on a final salary scheme). My pension from the private sector when I was in my 20s is similarly generous to my teacher pension.

They are expecting massively lower grades this gcse year so no. Grades are not being inflated. As you know, grade boundaries always move about a bit but they keep numbers of people at each grade sort of similar year upon year. The last few years were way out of sync with masses more getting top grades that isn't happening to this years cohort. They will use grade boundaries to bring numbers at each grade back to where they historically were

Year 11s are being allowed into school on strike days here too. (There’s no sixth form hence me not commenting on years 12 and 13).
I think it will be a real shock when the grades are released this year and I have massive sympathy for the year 11s. It is soon going to be clear how much of a disadvantage our year 10s have as well as the year 11s. Again, this is not the fault of the teaching profession and the strike days aren’t going to impact anywhere near as much as the pandemic has done. It’s only the government that can make this right for our teachers and also the students they teach. I’m honestly with them all the way.
I have sorted some tutoring for my DS to help him catch up and it’s really helping.

I think it will be a real shock when the grades are released this year

For your school in particular or for Y11 in general?

We already know what the grades will be nationally so there shouldn't be any shocks there!

For year 11s in England (if it’s right that Scottish and Welsh students are being pointed in the right direction again).
I think it will be worse than expected and there will be a clear disparity in the U.K. between the countries.

There isn’t a competition for which year has been most affected, I think it is more nuanced than that for all pupils over the last four years. Ability to deal with the negatives depends on levels of support at home, educational needs of a child, how effective schools have been in dealing with pandemic, strikes, staff shortages and so many different criteria.

DD is in Y13 and no adjustments will be made for her (but will be in Scotland!) and I am told by friends in employment industry her GCSEs which were done under assessment (lots and lots of assessment!) are seen as worthless.

I feel very sorry for friends who have DCs at end of a three year degree. About to graduate with debt, without a graded degree due to the latest strike on marking by lecturers, on top no A level exams, and the first few years of their time at university spent with Covid precautions. that is pretty crappy.

Ah no, the grades are pre-decided. It'll be set to be about the same as the grade profile in 2019, probably a bit higher.

It's predetermined how many kids will e.g. pass maths GCSE before anyone even sits the exam.

The worst affected years were those in an exam year, ie in year 10-13 in September 2020. All those years but the current 13's about to sit A levels have (rightly) had some concessions and allowances made. But there will be nothing for the current year 13's who have sat no public exams since SATS in year 6, and were the first poor sods to even sit those.

It’s a heads up just for GSCE students @PettsWoodParadise apparently also in NI too so just English students at a disadvantage there…..not exactly fair is it?

Exactly @MummyJ12 when I think my daughter is competing for a home status university place (don’t get me taking about the increasing number of places for international students) that is not a level playing field I don’t just feel it isn’t fair, it is blatantly obvious it isn’t!

Why is this? I'm sure it's not like this in many other countries. It baffles me. You often hear sunak commenting that not enough are passing maths, but it's not possible for this to get much higher unless they redesign the grading system right?

It’s really awful. So unfair. I’m so sorry that your DD is in that impossible situation @PettsWoodParadise wishing her all the best.

I don't think Sunak understands how grade boundaries work. It used to work a bit differently in the days of A*-G, but as more and more kids got Cs each year, the system was changed, effectively capping the number of students who could pass or get a 9. It also means less consistency year on year, so a student who got e.g. a 6 in maths last year might well be weaker than one who got a 6 3-4 years ago.

Personally, I think it would be better if it was decided that in e.g. maths, a 4 student could do XYZ, a 5 student could do VXYZ, and so on...

BTW, strike days don't have anything like the impact of being taught by a supply teacher for months on end as the school can't recruit.

And WRT pensions, many younger teachers can't afford to pay in, or don't pay in as they don't see themselves teaching long term.

@Hobbi I'm glad you said that about pensions. So many people have opinions but no idea 🙄.

We're finding Y2 really challenging as these children missed out on their early years foundation skills and are really struggling.

I actually think that all children have suffered in different ways

@Postapocalypticcowgirl

Yes, most countries have benchmark grading rather than a curve. Can you imagine being a perfectly capable driver but failing your test because the quota had been reached?