AIBU - to think Year 10's will of has the worst Education

[Endoftether2000]

Current Year 10's have missed out proportionately on Year 7 and Year 9 and practically all of Year 8. Teachers are now striking so proportionately on Year 10. AIBU to believe there will be no concessions for this Year Educationally. Missed education Concessions as I understand it come to an end this Year? Do I agree with Teachers striking not really, proportionately their Pension benefits for working in education will far exceed anybody in the private sector on the same Salaries, why is this never pointed out and why do they not get this?

OK, so it turns out that your beef is with teachers and their pensions, not the poor year 10s, please try to be honest in your prejudice.
Most ( have not clicked on the Daily Torygraph ones) of those links are inaccurate to put it kindly. Average teacher salary no where near £60k, final salary disappeared years ago, as did lump sum so the figure quoted in them are literally made up 😳

YABU

1. It's not a competition. There have been difficulties for all children and young people, through no-one's fault overall
2. I agree with @JaffavsCookie 's post just above this one

@lifeturnsonadime post - the very first reply, sums it up nicely.

I think year 11 and 13 are the worst off. Last years cohort had quite a bit of content reduction and massive grade inflation. They are expecting a big drop in grades this year. Year 10 at many schools have been allowed to drop the modern language. Year 11 has not had that accommodation. The teacher crisis has hit all years not just year 10 🙄 and at least year 10 has time to catch up unlike 11 and 13. No. I think all years have had issues and year 10 is not the worst by a long shot.

And why do you think all of this isn't relevant to year 11s?

JaffavsCookie absolutely not. My beef is Teachers striking post these kids being affected by Covid. A pointer is I have three close friends Teachers, they moved up the salary scale rates pretty quickly and all earn in the region of 60 to 100k. I guess I am just looking at it from my perspective and theirs who also don't agree with the strikes.

@Endoftether2000 do you and they agree with the funding schools currently get?

potatohead1 Year 11,13 In our area in Strike days these children are allowed in. Are you saying Year 11s won't get inflated grades? As I understand this lack of inflation is starting with Year 10 so apologies I must have it wrong. It

@Endoftether2000 I guess that's the beauty of an internet forum. You can educate yourself outside of your own small bubble. If your friends are earning upwards of £80k they are unlikely to be teaching but will be in senior leadership positions. There are primary heads in London on £60-70k. Strikes also cannot happen if enough people in a union decide on it. Therefore, the majority do agree, otherwise they wouldn't be happening.

So you have three headteacher at primary level or three assistant head or higher at secondary friends?

Because no standard teacher earns anywhere near that.

In most schools in our area, the Y11s aren't getting any teaching. The school is open for them but they're just coming in to revise.

I thought Y11 and Y13 are back to pre COVID level of grading

You can not get to £60K in teaching fairly quickly. Your friends are lying or you are.

You have 3 close friends, all of whom are head teachers (or possibly deputy heads in secondary schools)?

Do you expect us to believe that?

This is hilarious. You have three close friends, all in SLT. Aye right.

Ahahaha you quote a UCU article but you are anti strike??

Half of the listed surplus is with two institutions- Oxford and Cambridge. Believe me, many Unis have no such surplus

more data here - to pick the university if Aberdeen, as near the top and fairly steady - income £261m, expenditure £314m

https://www.hesa.ac.uk/data-and-analysis/finances/income

Yes, trying to benchmark to 2019. A little bit of extra help with formula sheets but no “inflation”

Hobbi My error I am thinking 20 years is pretty quickly in line with what increme

Nts seen in the private sector.

What and where do these friends teach?

I agree with you OP.
DS is in year 10. His high school experience has been affected in every year because of the pandemic. They had one full normal term before Covid hit. For a long time there were no practical science lessons. DS is a visual learner so this has had a massive impact on his learning. The extra curricular clubs at lunchtime etc have only just started back up. There were no practical art or food lessons until last year. It’s been awful. When covid hit, those in GCSE years were also massively impacted. There’s no doubt about it, but they were afforded a better high school education up until this point so there weren’t as many gaps in learning.
DS is autistic too, at that point he didn’t have any support and every lockdown impacted him. Unfortunately in year 8, he had a breakdown. He’s still not doing great.

That said, I do support teachers. They do the best they can with the resources they have. I understand and support the strikes even though our children are being further impacted and affected because they deserve better. It’s not the teachers fault. It’s the government that whom are at fault here and they need to sort it and quickly.

Yes I guess most of my friends don't Teach anymore as they are Headteachers and 1 Department Head with additional Responsibilities I think related to SEN. I forget as when we were at School both our Primary and Secondary Headteachers also taught.

Oh my word.

Whether a HT teaches or not, you must know that simple numbers mean the majority of teachers don’t become HTs?

It's a shit show buy I agree with the right to collective action. Without that right, we would probably all still be having half a Sunday off a month.
However, DD is in Year 10. She missed 26 weeks of education due to lock downs. She had, I reckon another 13 weeks where school was open but year groups/classes closed. At one point 3 classes were stuck in the hall with the Head Teacher supervising them. She has some learning difficulties.
Where is the catch up? Fucking nowhere. And yes, the standards will increase next year. If the entire year can miss 39 weeks of Secondary Education and not need catch up/tuition, why send them for 5 years?

SheilaFentiman agreed however you mention Aberdeen but if you live in Scotland and attend a Scotland University do you have to pay tuition fees?

Only my head earns in the bracket you gave.... and nowhere near the top.
It's highly unlikely that a HoD with additional responsibility would be in that bracket in a state school