AIBU - to think Year 10's will of has the worst Education

[Endoftether2000]

Current Year 10's have missed out proportionately on Year 7 and Year 9 and practically all of Year 8. Teachers are now striking so proportionately on Year 10. AIBU to believe there will be no concessions for this Year Educationally. Missed education Concessions as I understand it come to an end this Year? Do I agree with Teachers striking not really, proportionately their Pension benefits for working in education will far exceed anybody in the private sector on the same Salaries, why is this never pointed out and why do they not get this?

Well everyone is the same boat.

The last few years have been hard for all children education wise.

Spare a thought for the thousands of children with SEN who don't have any suitable school to go to and have been utterly failed by the education system.

As for not having sympathy with teachers, I do, it's a tough job and they have been treated appallingly. It's no wonder that, as a profession, they are failing to recruit adequate trainees. Who'd want to be a teacher?

You become a teacher, EndofTether. You can fix this.

DS is y10 and i don’t feel he’s especially disadvantaged. The lockdowns were well before their gcse years.

I wouldn’t say it’s been a walk in the park for any of the year groups who’ve been in school. YABU to single a particular year group out - they’ve all been disadvantaged in one way or another.

I have a Yr 10 child. Not sure if they have been disproportionately impacted in comparison with say Yr 11.

But Covid restrictions will have had far more impact than strike days.
Teacher shortages and issues with retention of experienced staff will have had more impact than strikes.
Failure to train and retain sufficient subject specialists- maths, physics etc - will have a more significant impact than strikes.
Insufficient and inappropriate school for SN and SEN pupils will have had far more impact than strikes.
Slashing opportunities for a more rounded education (trips, drama, music) will have more impact than strikes.

I disagree, I have a Y10 and a Y13 and feel the impact was greater on my y13 child and their peers.
My Y10 was happy as larry during lockdown, old enough to be unsupervised at home, they logged onto lessons but also played minecraft and xbox with mates, their life wasn't so different and I feel they easily can miss a few days or even weeks at that stage as they're not covering GCSE content yet.
My Y13 on the other hand sat endless exams in school and at home instead of gcses, and just this month has missed two days due to strike, two bank holidays and one day off sick totalling a week right before their A levels start - can't be helped but has not helped stress levels.

I have some support for teachers, I think their workload is a bigger issue than pay but I disagree with their timing of strikes right before exams and also feel that their case is not as urgent as NHS in my view.

So many years were hit harder by lockdowns and now they too have strikes

The ones that were excluded from going in for all the school closures (except for some) will be feeling it more

I feel for them though, year 10 included. It’s so tough on them

Year 10’s no worse than anyone else, there was plenty on BBC Bitesize so they wouldn’t have missed anything unless of course they chose not to. All those without internet were offered school places or dingles and laptops.
As for the strikes, I can’t understand y they would think they deserve more money than Police, Nurses and junior doctors, when they only work reduced hours and have enormous holiday entitlements, complete madness.

I think you're being unreasonable.

I support teacher strikes even though my own kids are affected, teachers are underpaid.

It should not be a race to the bottom, just because people are worse paid in ther sectors doesn't mean this vital job should be paid less now than it was 10 years ago. Teachers: too important to strike, but not important enough to get a proper pay rise

If you think the job/pension is such a great deal, become a teacher @Endoftether2000

Everyone will have a different opinion on which year groups have been most affected but the truth is they have all been impacted in one way or another.

But if I was to get off the fence I would argue that the most affected was my now 1st year uni student child, whose GCSE's were cancelled just before they were due to start and where substantial amounts of his A Level years were in lockdown. I think he's been harder hit than my current Y12 child.

YABVU not to support teachers whilst they strike to improve things for your child.

I have some support for teachers, I think their workload is a bigger issue than pay but I disagree with their timing of strikes right before exams and also feel that their case is not as urgent as NHS in my view.

Education is also in crisis but it hasn’t been in the news for some reason. We’ve had endless headlines about the NHS waiting times, lack of staff etc, but very little about the kids having to teach themselves due to not having a teacher. The mental health in kids crisis is being pushed as an NHS issue, but the impact of it is being felt most directly in schools.

Journalists need to pull their finger out.

I hope that they have better than you OP....."year 10s will of has the worst..."???

Disagree, my Y10 kid has suffered much less than those in exam years and those who had their end of primary year trashed. She's caught up really well. Year 11s seem to be harder hit in schools round here.

Nope - I have a Y10 dc and I would say the impact on the following groups is much higher:

1 - those poor kids in year 13 in 2020 who had a levels cancelled, then uni admissions ballsed up and then a lot of them spent uni in lockdown.

2 - the kids in years 11 and 12 in 2020. Disruption, uncertainty. Awful.

3 - kids in reception/nursery

4 - all kids of pre school age

Honestly, I’m so grateful that mine - current y10 and y9 have been less impacted than others.

As for teachers striking. Trust me, they don’t want to. They’re doing this for future generations of kids.

I don't have children in secondary yet, but I'd say sixth formers probably have had it the worst.

Current y13 will have started lockdown in the March of Y10, missed out on masses of learning, struggled with mocks from home. Then the upheaval of not knowing what was happening in 20/21 school year with GCSEs.

Then they had odd hybrid learning y11 and y12. Finally back to normality and now the Uni system is changing so they will have significantly higher repayment rates, and for longer, and unis are struggling to hire and retain and doing strikes themselves so no essays being marked.

Poor y13s

My list above was the impact of covid school closures, not strikes. The year groups I have were their year groups in 2020.

Thank you for the responses. The point I was making is the concessions for the Grading finishes this Year, so anybody that was above Year 10 had additional support and Grade concessions. I only know this as a Supply Teacher for Science has an end to their additional hours due to this reason, or so I am being told. My Year 10 due to us being Frontline workers had to often be left to their own devices for learning so yes they were as Happy as Larry. Were they listening to the teacher or were they on line chatting to their friends whilst logged in?🤣. I do get a little confused with workload though as Primary School my Youngest bought the same work home that had been done ten years earlier by my eldest. I agree Balzamico Strike timing is off, I have never seen Teachers on Picket Lines outside our local striking schools! The problem we have is some of these areas that are striking are well funded it is just not directed correctly. I agree also with all the comments that it is not just Year 10 that has suffered. I fear the Covid affect will last for years.

Wildwirewonder, I would retrain if I was younger as Teachers finally Salary Pension tops the list on Pensionwise the average being 46k. I would not get the time served in though🤣

I agree with you. I also think this age group lost out of social/emotional growing up (which is a different type of education) as during the time they would normally have gaining independence, they were locked down.

This age group also suffered from no time to get back what they missed. It might be that the current Year 10 are at a lower level than previous Year 10s, but this is subject to normal fluctuation anyway.

They deserve it and they are right to strike.

DontMakeMeShushYou I am intrigued as to how Teachers Striking will benefit my child? Please advise? My child will quite possibly like a lot of years/children not achieve their full potential started with Covid and now by striking 🤔

The point I was making is the concessions for the Grading finishes this Year, so anybody that was above Year 10 had additional support and Grade concessions.

I don't know what additional support you are referring to. As for "grade concessions", that was to reflect the fact that very many schools had struggled to complete teaching the entire curriculum because of lockdowns and isolation rules. Current Y10s have not been affected by that at all during their GCSE years so it is inly right that the concessions should also end.

If the strikes are successful and the pay restored, it may help to slow the stream of excellent teachers leaving the profession. Your child has three more years in education.

But it isn't about YOUR child alone, it is about education. Every person insociety - including those without children - benefit from a strong education system - and teachers are the backbone of that.

I disagree. My current year 12 and first year uni child missed out on so much education

I think Y11 have it as bad if not worse - GCSE prep is being disrupted by strikes right now and they start in a couple of weeks