Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Education

Join the discussion on our Education forum.

AIBU - to think Year 10's will of has the worst Education

147 replies

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 10:52

Current Year 10's have missed out proportionately on Year 7 and Year 9 and practically all of Year 8. Teachers are now striking so proportionately on Year 10. AIBU to believe there will be no concessions for this Year Educationally. Missed education Concessions as I understand it come to an end this Year? Do I agree with Teachers striking not really, proportionately their Pension benefits for working in education will far exceed anybody in the private sector on the same Salaries, why is this never pointed out and why do they not get this?

OP posts:
Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 11:55

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz I have to agree with you there Year 13 also have had it bad. However that opens another can of worms of why University is no longer free. I remember marching on protests for Education is a right not a privilege! I think the Higher Education System has become a money making racket! My Niece has been affected by Strikes at Uni I told her she needs to fight for a Tuition fee refund!!!

OP posts:
SequinsandStilettos · 05/05/2023 11:56

Clickbait title!

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 11:57

PetulaDark agreed 👍

OP posts:
HowardKirksConscience · 05/05/2023 11:59

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 11:48

DontMakeMeShushYou I am intrigued as to how Teachers Striking will benefit my child? Please advise? My child will quite possibly like a lot of years/children not achieve their full potential started with Covid and now by striking 🤔

What’s with all the random capital letters?

Please don’t train as a teacher until you have sorted out your English.

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 12:00

DontMakeMeShushYou if this is the case why is my child in their GCSE year being told they should of learnt that in Year8???? In Science and Maths?????

OP posts:
Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 12:02

HowardKirksConscience funny that I got A's in English Language and English Literature see what I did there Capitals 🤣

OP posts:
unfor · 05/05/2023 12:02

I have a year 10 and I don't think they've been that badly impacted. Years 7-9 seem to have been a bit of an academic non-event, at least in their school, so it doesn't feel like they've missed out on much. They were lucky to have Y6 and transition to Y7 unaffected by Covid.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 05/05/2023 12:03

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 11:48

DontMakeMeShushYou I am intrigued as to how Teachers Striking will benefit my child? Please advise? My child will quite possibly like a lot of years/children not achieve their full potential started with Covid and now by striking 🤔

Because teachers striking isn't just about individual teachers wanting more cash in their pockets or better pensions.

It's about pay and conditions in the profession being good enough to attract and retain teachers. So that your child, and all the other children coming along behind, have actual qualified and experienced teachers who have the time to teach your child as an individual, rather than an endless stream of overworked, demotivated, non-subject-specialist teachers. Or worse still, supply teachers who don't know your child or their individual needs from Adam.

It's also about not accepting an unfunded increase in teachers' pay which will come at the expense of other things the school budget should be paying for (equipment, facilities, SN/SEN provision).

Hobbi · 05/05/2023 12:11

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 11:43

Wildwirewonder, I would retrain if I was younger as Teachers finally Salary Pension tops the list on Pensionwise the average being 46k. I would not get the time served in though🤣

Nonsense. Teacher pensions have not been final salary for years and I where are you getting the £46000 figure from?

Whenisitsummer · 05/05/2023 12:13

As a parent , I am very concerned by the number of school days children have lost since 2020. The impact this has had on their education is ( I feel) underestimated. I had hoped this school year would finally be ‘back to business’ but the ongoing strikes mean that hasn’t really happened. I get a little frustrated when I receive text messages and emails every week from school about how important attendance is and the negative impact that missing even one day of school can have. Then further strike days are announced. I hope the pay dispute is resolved soon.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 05/05/2023 12:13

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 11:48

DontMakeMeShushYou I am intrigued as to how Teachers Striking will benefit my child? Please advise? My child will quite possibly like a lot of years/children not achieve their full potential started with Covid and now by striking 🤔

When your children move into the world of work, they will benefit massively from things which are only in place due to people striking and demanding change.

Working time directive
Equal pay
Paid annual leave
Maternity and paternity leave
Sick pay
Employment protection rights
Safe working conditions
Right to work free of discrimination and prejudice.
National Minimum Wage
Living Wage
Pensions

Thank your lucky stars your children are alive now if you think teachers striking for better working conditions is the greatest hardship.

Hobbi · 05/05/2023 12:18

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 12:00

DontMakeMeShushYou if this is the case why is my child in their GCSE year being told they should of learnt that in Year8???? In Science and Maths?????

They should also have learned that it's 'should have' not 'should of' and that using multiple question marks makes you look like a nine year old.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 05/05/2023 12:20
Grin
shammalammadingdong · 05/05/2023 12:21

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 12:02

HowardKirksConscience funny that I got A's in English Language and English Literature see what I did there Capitals 🤣

then why can't you write a proper sentence?

MelchiorsMistress · 05/05/2023 12:22

You are being very unreasonable. Your children will get to do their GCSEs as normal, their a levels as normal and most importantly if they go to university they won’t be confined to a crappy little room learning online.

The ones who had it worst are the ones who missed out on their university experience and education and still had to get into massive debt for the privilege.

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 12:36

Wildwirewonder I think you are disillusioned. Pay restored to what? From my experience for as many good teachers there are there are equally bad ones. I think Teachers are leaving because they get very little respect in the Classroom from Children these days and this lack of respect is often backed up by a lack of respect from Parents. There is also a distinct lack of authority in Teachers manner these days which is linked to our culture change and the fear of retribution from children. Until this culture changes Teachers leaving will not change with any amount of money. Children do no longer fear consequences!

OP posts:
Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 12:56

Hobbi 🤔😂🤣😂

OP posts:
Noodledoodledoo · 05/05/2023 12:59

Current year 10's lost Summer term and a couple of weeks of Year 7, then were back in and then lost 8 weeks in Year 8, with the exception of isolations for covid in year 8. Year 9 was back to normal on the whole. Year 10 strike days.

From my experience, in my school and subject - year 7 work was set but not required to be done so there was some lost time there, in Year 8 during the Jan/Feb lockdown we were delivering lessons online full timetable. I had from year 8 about 70-80% attendance/work completed.

I am not in the union that is striking and my year 10's are the worst for attending the online lessons I am delivering on strike days. 80-90% attendance from my other classes so not a school wide attitude.

Every year group has its own individual impact from covid, I would say the socialisation skills, attitude and behaviour is the biggest issue in year 10 not the academics - this may not be your own child but the impact in their classes is huge.

Dodgeitornot · 05/05/2023 13:06

My DD is in Y10 and I disagree. You cannot generalise it this way. Everyone will have had different experiences. My DD had a wonderful lockdown, missed on all the mess that Y7 and 8 creates. She really had an extended childhood and stayed close to her primary friends in the first lockdown. They spent most of it outside on their bikes and she played with toys at home and Roblox with her friends. I was furloughed so did tons of 1:1 work with her and she finally caught up.
Second lockdown was harder as it was cold and I was back at work, but it wasn't very long. They went back to school properly in Y9 and were much more mature and could handle all the drama, of which anecdotally there was less of, but my DD might just be in a lucky year group. I do think they're much 'younger' than previous Y9s and 10s were in some sense. In another sense they've been thrown in at the deep end, not really having that tween stage. It's not really the end of the world though and I think for my DD the positives outweigh the negatives.

I think the ones who suffered the most educationally were SEN kids, those in y11-13 when lockdown started, and those in Nursery -Y1.

Hobbi · 05/05/2023 13:11

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 12:56

Hobbi 🤔😂🤣😂

Use your words, dear.

Hobbi · 05/05/2023 13:11

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 12:56

Hobbi 🤔😂🤣😂

And I see you haven't acknowledged your lie/error regarding pensions.

SheilaFentiman · 05/05/2023 13:12

@Endoftether2000 there really isn’t much by way of concession in the current GCSEs. A couple of extra formula sheets, i think.

SheilaFentiman · 05/05/2023 13:12

@Endoftether2000 there really isn’t much by way of concession in the current GCSEs. A couple of extra formula sheets, i think.

minisoksmakehardwork · 05/05/2023 13:13

I have children in years 6, 8 and 10. I think all of them have suffered through their schooling with covid, strikes and a plethora of supply teachers.

I also know that sen provision is nowhere near fit for purpose because the funding simply isn't enough to support every child who needs it effectively. It really is lip service in most mainstream schools.

Until the current year 9 cohort finish secondary education, I think we will continue to see evidence of 'covid cohort'. In my experience they are less able to attend to independent learning, they are more likely to be passive but combative when challenged. They are the most likely to refuse to help themselves.

My eldest only really missed out on the social side of year 7 due to bubbles. She still did ks2 sats in year 6, had her transition and end of term celebrations. She missed a planned secondary school trip due to covid restrictions but it wasn't the end of the world.

My year 8 conversely is far less affected than the year 9's. He missed out on transition and didn't sit SATS but that was it really. He still got the important aspects of his education done, did the residential trips and by the summer the pupils were still able to have their end of year celebrations.

Years 6 and 7 have more or less had normality in their formative years pre secondary school and anyone else is young enough that gaps can be filled with dedication and effort, from parents as much as school.

Endoftether2000 · 05/05/2023 13:22

shammalammadingdong probably because I no longer have to write and cannot see my spell, grammar check when using this site 🤣😂🤣

OP posts: