will someone scold and spank me and remined me I am a stubborn socialist guardianista?

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I have always made my feelings clear about private schools but the family has been working on me again and have ordered a proespectus for a private school that I have been idly flicking through and I have fallen in love with it and even - and this is a big deal for me - looked at the website.

For me this is a huge step and I am feeling sick with guilt, so guilty in fact that I have just re planned all my lessons tomorrow for my classes as some kind of penenance.

I need other socialist guardianistas to take me in hand.

I 'd like a curry too.

lol at me being a socialist I am sat here eating my champneys meal and picking at olives and quaffing wine .

But I do come from good working class stock.

I would too. I'd like a Chicken Tarka. It's like a Chicken Tikka but it's a little 'otter.

groan.

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twap you can't be a true socialist if you are sending your dd to private shool. Too many polticians eg Harriet Harman Diane Abbot banged on and on about state schools then when it was their turn sent them to selective or private schools. If you do that and call yourself a socialist, then really you are a hypocrite. It still wouldn't stop me though, no matter what anyone said.

hvae just seen UQD that your wife is a teacher has that shaped your views about schooling?

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There's nothing wrong with sending your children to private school, and there is nothing wrong with renouncing socialism! Embrace the change!

Ah now there I do agree with localgirl. If you send your dd to a private school you can be a handwringing liberal, but you can't be a socialist. Sorry.

tsap don't beat yourself up about it, it's better to give your dd the best of what you are able than to be able to call yourself by a name of any kind. Use your work to do the best you can for the other kids and don't let anyone tell you that your dd is getting something at someone else's expense, that is just plain socialist envy thinking

But that is my pointy cod I do belive in state education and don't want to leave it but dd and just about everyone I know is trying to bully me into sending dd to a posh catholic prep school and I don;t want to. But the sight of well behaved children, well stocked libraries and fantastic facilites not to mention constant pleading from dd and I am weakening.

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Cod that is exactly what I want to be told my values and principles need reinvigorating so I can fight off the enemy with their gloosy brochures and talk of felt hats and gaberdine.

twinset: Good question - I don't know if it has. Probably not. I was lucky enough to go to a grammar school, and that probably shaped my view more. If there were any left in this city (grrrr), I'd want to send my children to one.

DW works far enough away from home for our choices not to overlap with her professional life. She has taught in very tough schools and quite tough schools, mostly in very white working-class areas. She's about to start teaching in a muti-cultural school for the first time.

handwringing...

Dp, her father, her grandma, her aunties and her great grandfather have all put it in her head. They have even taken her to see the place.

is the real issue that you want state, tset, and dp want sprivate?

tsap that's the point, don't worry about it icod might mean it in a mean way I don't know, but my point is it doesn't matter. Don't let your hangups (or what anyone says) about whether or not you are a good socialist force you into a bad decision about your dd's future. Its your job to be a good parent before being a good socialist imo

you're with a bloke who's a class above?

socialism = what's best for society is best for me and mine
individualism = what's best for me and mine is best, full stop

I find it depressing that the latter attitude is now so prevalent that it's hardly questioned any more. Even 20 years ago, people were a little ashamed to admit to that kind of reasoning: now it's a badge of pride.

'The bull-bars on my 4x4 might vastly increase the likelihood of me killing a pedestrian, but this car is safer for me and for little Johnny and Jemima, so screw the rest of you!'

Ad nauseam.

I blame Fatcher.

I agree with localgirl - your child going to a private school is not necessarily depriving anyone else's child of anything. It's the wrong idea that education is like a big pie, with someone taking a big slice leaving a smaller one for someone else. Rather it's like a language - one person having a wide vocabulary doesn't deprive another of the power of speech.

did he go to private school?