Selection get out clause

[mrz]

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So you think that comps in expensive areas all have zero free school meal kids?
Nope some will be rich divorced families, some using their well off parents house, some even lucky enough to have lived in the area for generations. But zero poor families will have moved into the area for the school, like wealthy parents are able to do.

use whatever measures will be taken to ensure that poor kids get into grammars and apply them to the best comps
So your saying we should academically test all children from deprived areas (FSM, or something) and allocate the top 25% priority places at the best comprehensive in the area. Sounds good to me, where do I vote for that?

2StripedSocks Tue 04-Oct-16 19:06:52

Really how do you know Maths? Surely if they say £20 it's £20

was this comment aimed at someone else?

2StripedSocks Tue 04-Oct-16 19:08:45 £20 is a lot different than the £60 you quoted anyway.

How much does an 11 plus tutor cost?

Our tutors set their own rates. On average across the country, for academic year 2014/15, our tutors were charging £27.99 per hour for 11 plus tuition. There is however, considerable regional variation as shown here (use the map, or find your local grammar school in the expandable table below):

www.firsttutors.com/uk/blog/2015/09/the-definitive-guide-to-choosing-an-11-plus-tutor-for-entrance-exams/

In areas such as South West London the range is between £20 and £120 per hour!

If you can't find one well below £60 I'd just book up some mocks and DIY.

Yes I can quite see how an EAL parent would be quite able to DIY, so would a parent with SEN or who has no idea what material to use or where to find it.

2StripedSocks Tue 04-Oct-16 19:14:21 Can we have your link that shows the majority of grammars have catchments?

How about you provide the link you have that shows the majority of Grammars don't have a catchment.

2StripedSocks Tue 04-Oct-16 19:40:43 No thanks you said the majority of grammars do have catchments quite firmly so I'm presuming you have the data to back this up.

No thanks.

I have done a calculation and it appears there are at present 'only' 14 (liable to lose at least 8 of them at the next GE) grammar schools located in Labour parliamentary seats !

A total of 14 out of 163 grammar schools . Why are they making such a big deal about selection when it hardly affects Labour voting areas !

Quite clearly the comments about 'outlawing' grammar schools mean Lancaster, Wirral West, and possibly Slough will lost .

PS. Tutoring costs are minimal when you have a mother who was an ex head of English at a grammar school. A few Bond books and a large dollop of patience was all that was required for my three.

A few Bond books and a large dollop of patience was all that was required for my three

Snap, you just throw the books at them and they do the business, don't believe all this crap about tutoring.

mathsmum314 Tue 04-Oct-16 20:14:16 Snap, you just throw the books at them and they do the business

I'm impressed if your DC passed the QE exam off the back of a couple of bond books.

I'm impressed if your DC passed the QE exam off the back of a couple of bond books

Oh FFS, its a metaphor. Of course it wasn't a few bond books. It was library books every night time from birth to teenager. It wasn't a big deal, reading was normal, teachers even told us off for learning.

2StripedSocks Tue 04-Oct-16 20:34:24 What do think a tutor would have over the list of books on 11+ forum for QE?

Feel free to enlighten me. What exactly does the QE exam contain?

mathsmum314 Tue 04-Oct-16 20:34:52 Oh FFS, its a metaphor. Of course it wasn't a few bond books. It was library books every night time from birth to teenager.

Really so you read maths books to your DC at bed time?

2StripedSocks Tue 04-Oct-16 20:42:39 No thanks you haven't answered my question. What does a tutor( who will use the same resources) have over the list of books on the 11+ forum?

No thanks.

Really so you read maths books to your DC at bed time?

I suppose your going to slag me off now. YES off course I read my DC maths books at bedtime, Simpsons one being a favorite. There is also some very good children's books on quantum physics etc. Not everyone reads Kim Kardashian to get to sleep.

mathsmum314 Tue 04-Oct-16 20:45:40 Not everyone reads Kim Kardashian to get to sleep

I imagine far fewer read "how to do CEM/GCSE/A Level maths".

2StripedSocks Tue 04-Oct-16 20:45:20 So nothing then.

Are you telling me or asking me?

2StripedSocks Tue 04-Oct-16 20:42:39 What does a tutor( who will use the same resources) have over the list of books on the 11+ forum?

The 11+ Forum doesn't have a section for QE material:

www.elevenplusexams.co.uk/shop/Regions/

Dunraven's 18% FSM is still just over half Lambeth's % as a whole - 30% in 2014, 28.8% in the 2015 Lambeth pupil survey. Which suggests they are doing a reasonable but not great job of getting local kids to sit the fair banding test and apply (local gossip would support that - my end of the borough is more like 66% FSM but everyone wants their kid to go to Dunraven, even if they've never heard of some of the out-of-borough schools that might be suitable, like the Sutton grammars).

Local houses may well be over £600k now, but certainly 10 years ago were well under half that (I bought one) and loads of local families are in small rented flats. Half the catchment by distance is Brixton, which has gentrified areas but certainly still has parts that aren't.

I imagine far fewer read "how to do CEM/GCSE/A Level maths".

And your point is?

MY DS is reading Additional Mathematics for OCR by Val Hanrahan at the moment. Amongst other books.

Your sounding snobbish!

As a maths teacher can I point out that you shouldn't 'read' maths textbooks rather 'work your way through' them with a hard surface, pencil and paper to hand?